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    I actually really like the idea of participating in partners/teams of three!! The WFL three could make a comeback if Kaoru stops being relatively nocturnal and if Eti ever logged in! The Valentine's Day Event seemed really, really fun, but there weren't enough people interested. But that's the kind of event I'd like to see more of. Since there's practically zero interest in battling, intra-forum puzzles in groups seems to be the next best thing, imo.

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    I kind of like the idea of trying a lack of teams or working in twos/threes. Honestly, I don't feel like teams are super necessary, and from what I saw this year, they were the source of waaaaay too much controversy.

    Anyway, regardless, I spent some time thinking about the goals WAR aimed to accomplish--mainly to be fun and boost activity, and I was wondering...what if we tried an event centered around trying new things? We would have veterans in various sections volunteer to mentor/keep an eye on/critique work in their respective sections, and pair them with users who either feel that their work in the section could be improved, or are new to the section and want to give it a shot. I would suggest we limit actual competition (but maybe not prompts for stuff like writing/art?), though awards based on improvement and participation could be issued based on mentor recommendation and how many different sections they tried out/tried to improve in. While this event could span weeks, people would not have to participate every week, only as much as they'd like. Is that something people might be interested in?

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    The twos/threes idea would be amazing! I'd enjoy working with any of you c:
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    Teams of twos and threes seem a little small too me, though I like the idea. I think something closer to five per team would be best. It could be in a small range too. 3 minimum, 6 maximum. Or something similar.

    Also, instead of doing a whole bunch of separate areas to compete in, how about only one per judging period? So for week one it could be drawn art, the next for writing, then the third for ASB and so on. This would help the judging too because there would only be one panel of all the judges. If only one area is used per judging period, it makes it easier to accommodate for difference in needed time per section. The only problem with this system that I can see so far is the RP section, since RP is done over a larger period of time. This is what I suggest:

    RP creation competition. At the end of the new WAR, the final competition would be for each team to create a RP. One entry per team. Great team building, and can actually be done in good time because the parameters for the RP (assuming there would be, but you never know) could be given out at the beginning of new WAR and the RPs presented at the end. Kind of like the big finally of the event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morzone View Post
    RP creation competition. At the end of the new WAR, the final competition would be for each team to create a RP. One entry per team. Great team building, and can actually be done in good time because the parameters for the RP (assuming there would be, but you never know) could be given out at the beginning of new WAR and the RPs presented at the end. Kind of like the big finally of the event.
    I'm afraid that I have to chip in and say that I really like the idea of different teams (or "groups of cooperators" if team is a touchy word) working to create an RP for everyone to enjoy.
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    Let's take this one step further with this "Olympics" idea. The Olympics hold Winter and Summer events every 4 years. Now lets drop that 4 years to every year.

    "There would be a Winter event, and a Summer event every year." This would probably draw a different crowd every time, because truthfully, some people are more active on this forum in the Winter than in Summer, and vice versa.

    Now add in the Teams of 2 or 3. Another idea I enjoy. Picking between 2 or 3, I'd pick 3. Just to keep that variety in play. But, I would also consider teams of 5. Purely for the sake of not flooding the Group boards with as many threads, unless deciding on an entirely separate Sub-Forum exclusively for these events.

    I would consider doing a Good vs Evil scenario, but I feel it would be too one-sided. Maybe as a theme once or twice, but as a constant, it seems unnecessary.

    Let's talk duration. How long should these events be? 5-6 like WAR? Drawn out from the start of season to the end of season (roughly 12-13 weeks)? or maybe shorter, like 3-4 weeks, looking at a single month of activities and contests? I prefer the latter of these things, but I will leave it open to discussion.

    Also, maybe, a single Host to these events every season. Each time having someone different, after holding applications a couple months in advance. Then that Host can pick a team, and use the time before the start of the next event to help develop and structure said event..

    I enjoy the idea of a Judge Panel as well, this also fits in with HKim's 'Olympics' idea. So having a panel of 3 judges, potentially recurring from season to season would be a wonderful idea. Maybe said Host's development team could also be the panel of 3?

    All together, it looks like there's something in the making here which may turn out better than WAR in the long run. However, I want to throw this out there. Doing away with WAR entirely probably shouldn't be a thing. But to do as I did with Team Awesome, and put it on the back burner to use again if things get too stale. It's always good to have that fall back if things go south, you know what I'm saying.

    Anyways, I don't really have any original ideas of my own here, except for maybe Summer and Winter events as opposed to just Summer. But, if you mush everything I just listed here, you'd probably have your answer somewhere in there.



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    I'd be totally fine with scrapping the WAR in exchange for a summer and winter Olympics idea (I agree that having no events at all is just going to make this place dead, lonely, and quiet). I tried to come up with a PMD-themed idea to replace the WAR, but it's been iffy and I think it's getting overly complicated. There's also a LOT more work that needs to be done with it and I just haven't had very much time lately. But I also don't think PXR has the activity level needed to make it work.

    I'm not so sure about the teams of 2 or 3 idea. The pressure is going to be brutal on everyone to be as crazily active as possible, because if someone needs to take time off for whatever reason, that cuts the team's activity pretty much in half. With a larger team, if a person needs to take a week off for vacation, it won't have as significant of an effect. I think a member ceiling might be a better idea, and to have the max number of members be 10 or 15 members or so. Also, a draft could work, but only if the team theme is made AFTER people are recruited, so they can discuss it first so everyone is happy with it. This worked great for Season 9 on PE2K and there weren't too many complaints about how it ended up then.

    Also, some events, like RP, probably would be best to let them keep going for the whole event duration. Things like art, writing, and URPG battles could be rotated out with each other, so maybe week 1 and 2 will be graphic art and URPG battles, week 3 and 4 will be drawn art and creative writing, and so on.

    With a judging panel, it would have to allow for anyone to be a judge, even if they're not a specialist in that area. Which means even if you're not an artist, you could still judge those sections. We would need to do this because those judges would not be able to participate themselves. But it might help in conjunction with the rotation system, so a person judging graphic art one week could also judge creative writing during the next rotation. And for that, I think a panel of 3 judges would be fine. Either they can communicate the final scoring, or each of them comes up with their own scoring for all entries and the average ends up being the final scores.

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    If we stick with that Olympics concept, though, planning and prepping for a big ol' competition two times in one year I feel will put a lot of strain on staff. It took quite a while for us to all plan out this past WAR.

    So maybe one year it can be during the summer, and then the next year it can be during the winter? Though then that begs the question: which half of winter? At the end of the year or at the beginning of the next year?

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    personally, I'm still leaning toward only doing it once a year like WAR, but if we switched its season, in winter I'd imagine It'd be in January or late January to early February.

    From re-reading through this thread, most people like agree on at least two things: that we should base it more off the Olympics, and that sections should be judged by a panel of a few Judges. Is there anyone who doesn't agree to those two? I know I'm certainly not allowed to make any decisions, I'm just trying to see how much progress has actually been made in designing this new Event.

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    A panel of a few judges per competition, or just a measley few judges altogether? I can't really see the latter working very well. Maybe have at least one person to judge that represents each section of the competition.

    So you'd have all these people, but you'd have at least ONE person that specializes in one area for each area. So the panel would consist of someone that specializes in art, literatutre, RPGs, etc etc

    But they would ALL be in charge of judging everything, perhaps. Maybe if we're afraid on using too many judges altogether because not everyone will pull their weight, we could just have a minimum of judges judge. However, the "specialty" judge that specializes in that area would HAVE to judge the area they specialize in. For everyone else, maybe there could be a minimum of having 3 people judge per contest / area. A MINIMUM. This means that if it reaches the quota, more people could still judge if they so wished to.
    This might take a lot of stress off of judges.

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