[VOTE] Do we kill Millie (KOAX)?

[Suicune's Fire]

Interview #1 (http://www.pokemoncrossroads.com/forum/showthread.php?11704-Main-Action-and-Team-Status-Thread-NOW-LIVE!&p=221578&viewfull=1#post221578) (nothing)
Evidence #1 (http://www.pokemoncrossroads.com/forum/showthread.php?11704-Main-Action-and-Team-Status-Thread-NOW-LIVE!&p=221685&viewfull=1#post221685) (not yet incriminating)
Evidence #2 (http://www.pokemoncrossroads.com/forum/showthread.php?11704-Main-Action-and-Team-Status-Thread-NOW-LIVE!&p=221701&viewfull=1#post221701)
Evidence #3 (http://www.pokemoncrossroads.com/forum/showthread.php?11704-Main-Action-and-Team-Status-Thread-NOW-LIVE!&p=221762&viewfull=1#post221762)

We could either assassinate her, or complete the ritual and keep her alive until it's complete. We don't know what this ritual will do (it could purge the demon within her, or end up killing her anyway). We could kill her now and stop her from killing more pokemon, or we could wait and let her kill more while we figure out the ritual.


Also, who wants to do the assassination?

[VeloJello]

http://i.imgur.com/iWyqUco.png

Could those voting please state their reasons in-thread? It's possible that you might have drawn conclusions that others have not and/or are voting for different reasons than one might think (like no voters who could either be voting because they don't think Mille is Koax or because they think that we need to wait and see if the Sin Purge Ritual will free the Stalkers).

I'm in favor of getting rid of these Stalkers as quickly as possible, for a number of reasons. First of all, if we leave them alive, they're free to do more damage, and even if the others increase their pace to keep up, that increases the chance of them making a mistake that allows us to cotton on to them. Secondly, if we kill Millie and she is Koax, we may get some evidence from her that points us to other Stalkers. Third, in Millie's note, she explicitly stated that she didn't want to go on. She seems to be suffering, and we don't know if the Sin Purge Ritual would leave her alive. It's pretty cut-and-dry from where I stand. Er, perch.

[AWA1997]

As I said in general chat...


No, I get the feeling that killing Millie won't make the killings any more or less frequent, just take one person out of rotation. If that's the case, then either we kill them when we identify all six because we don't have the entire ritual, or we figure out the ritual before we identify them all and perform it once we have all six confirmed. Doing it this way will save as many lives as possible if I'm correct in the frequencies of the stalkers killing.

I'm willing to bet that the sin purge ritual will free them and that's why that was the Adis's before we showed up rather than killing them the moment he knew who they all were.

[Dash]

I'm right now in the opinion of us interviewing her one more time - at night if possible. I feel like we should learn if there's the possibility of a third personality since it seems that she has multiple-personality disorder, and if so, it might give us more answers to questions that we have. If nothing comes up soon though, I'd go with assassinating.

[Noblejanobii]

http://i.imgur.com/MS8d4AU.png Gemma beat me to it but I agree, it appears she has multiple personality disorder. I'm on the fence with this, but I'm leaning towards assassinating her, because we don't know the state of her other personalities and if one is dangerous then the others could be too.

[AWA1997]

Well, looks like I'm alone here...

[Shieldbearer]

http://i.imgur.com/WXib097.pngTo be honest, I'd like to try for the ritual if we can manage it, just in case, but I'll abstain from the actual vote.
...Although if it happens that we decide to commit bloody murder, even though the ones that suggest assassination should be the ones to step up to the plate to do so, I volunteer to be the executioner. First actual murder for me, but for a good cause, right...

[The Nonexistent Tazz]

I think Adis outright said that the Sin Purge Ritual would just kill them anyways, so leaving her alive doesn't have a peg to stand on. That's our (posthumous) expert on it. I've already given my reasons in the 'clubhouse' so to speak and they're pretty much the same as everyone else's. Death is the only release-let's just make it quick and merciful.

Plus, I think that interviewing her at night is a terrible idea. I don't think Mew's protections work that well, with the possibility of getting basically ganged up on by all six Stalkers.

[AWA1997]

I don't remember him saying that the ritual would kill them...

[VeloJello]

http://i.imgur.com/iWyqUco.png

Me either; could we get a source on that if possible? It doesn't change my vote at all but the more info we have, the better.

[The Nonexistent Tazz]

"...But he got into a deep conversation about it, telling me that there's some kind of parasitic, demonic force in each of these Stalkers that gives them dark supernatural power or something like that. And he also said it's impossible to dig it out by any means other than plain ol' death once they've found a 'conduit' or whatever the hell he called it..."

Quote taken from the Fetcher interview, who was explicitly tasked with getting the samples for Adis. Bolded bit most important.

I think that this proves the point that the Sin Purge Ritual 'saves' in only that it is a merciful death. A merciful death that we can deliver.

[VeloJello]

Quote taken from the Fetcher interview, who was explicitly tasked with getting the samples for Adis. Bolded bit most important.

I think that this proves the point that the Sin Purge Ritual 'saves' in only that it is a merciful death. A merciful death that we can deliver.

http://i.imgur.com/i3KiK9Q.png
HAHAHA. Welp, that's what I get for not paying a ton of attention to my own interviews.

http://i.imgur.com/Jeft3du.png
It's not a good situation, but this cinches it. Unless we want to go and claim that Fetcher is lying to mislead us, but given that he pointed me to Ryne, who is almost definitely on the up-and-up, I think we can safely say that Fetcher is at the very least honest.

[AWA1997]

Fine, so far, there's a 0% chance of doing the ritual, so we're going to end up assassinating them anyways. But, if we get a second round of this, we go for the ritual, plain and simple.

[VeloJello]

Fine, so far, there's a 0% chance of doing the ritual, so we're going to end up assassinating them anyways. But, if we get a second round of this, we go for the ritual, plain and simple.

http://i.imgur.com/Jeft3du.png
With all due respect, that's everyone's choice, not just yours. Doing the ritual seems to be just a way of killing all of the Stalkers all at once, rather than having to suss out their identities and do the dirty work ourselves.

http://i.imgur.com/iWyqUco.png
My personal opinion is that we should just get rid of Stalkers as soon as we find them. If we can complete the ritual quickly, wonderful. But the potential benefits of killing Stalkers - getting leads for the remaining ones, slowing down their kills, and/or making the others sloppy enough to expose themselves - are too good to ignore, I think.

[AWA1997]

Velocity, I didn't mean it in a demanding way, and I meant to say 'should' in there. I just think it would be interesting to see the entire ritual. I'm just one of those people that likes to see every ending. Sorry if that came out wrong.

[LKWayvern]

http://i.imgur.com/4yw6eKt.png We seem to be in agreement, then...? We kill Millie the Vaporeon, soon right? And Aurimas volunteered to do the deed. Unless anyone else wants to do it instead, should we go ahead with it...?

[VeloJello]

Velocity, I didn't mean it in a demanding way, and I meant to say 'should' in there. I just think it would be interesting to see the entire ritual. I'm just one of those people that likes to see every ending. Sorry if that came out wrong.

http://i.imgur.com/iWyqUco.png
It's all good. And I hope that we can see the Ritual's results, too! We might end up needing to if we don't find every Stalker at any rate.


http://i.imgur.com/4yw6eKt.png We seem to be in agreement, then...? We kill Millie the Vaporeon, soon right? And Aurimas volunteered to do the deed. Unless anyone else wants to do it instead, should we go ahead with it...?

http://i.imgur.com/iWyqUco.png
We don't seem to have a lot disagreement, though I'd say that we're probably okay if we wait for more people to chime in. Though it may not be worth the risk to wait. Interviewing Millie about the note was the right thing to do, but it may have agitated the Koax side of her...

http://i.imgur.com/Jeft3du.png
Cripes. It's probably better to just get it over with, the more I think about it.

[Shieldbearer]

http://i.imgur.com/WXib097.pngSo it is settled. How do you think I should handle the aftermath? If the general populace know that we killed someone, which, if it isn't lost in the ongoing game of blame, might be pinpointed to us if it's suddenly different from the rest of the kills... They might not trust us so much - well, much more than they already do. Even if the police know that we killed someone without so much as notifying them, it might make things more difficult. Then again, them figuring out that we were lying about something isn't much better.
...Although I can be the scapegoat for that, too, if anything happens. You don't need people to like you to search places when they aren't present... I'll give it about... 2 more hours before I launch my assault. Maybe I should take a sample of them along the way, in case it happens that we need it?

http://i.imgur.com/NVXm67T.png Perhaps I should've been a Bisharp...

[SassySnivy]

http://i.imgur.com/182BajS.png

Looking back at Millie's first interview, I'm a little curious as to what happened to make her mention something about Marche "framing other Pokemon of being a killer." Maybe there's some history behind them, even if only a little?

http://i.imgur.com/feWwinF.png

Maybe we should investigate that...but it probably doesn't mean anything. I just figure a little information goes a long way around here.

http://i.imgur.com/QSUIx8Z.png

Anyway, that's really the only information I got out of her first interview, though. And her jumpiness; which only looks suspicious in retrospect, anyway.

http://i.imgur.com/9rj7bsw.png

Where does she work? Where does she live? Should we search her quarters first? As I feel that would be a logical thing to do, I also think it would be...uh, well, it would take too long and we need all the time we can get before any other Pokemon succumb to the stalkers. Millie knows she was found out, and we don't know if that could impact her other "persona" at all.

http://i.imgur.com/BlBpthh.png

So, yeah, I vote on offing her. It's for the best. She's suffering, everyone else is suffering.

http://i.imgur.com/WzzMzFl.png

(Totally diggin' this format, btw. I just need to find a way to make the text more justified to one general position to make it look more like text boxes.)

http://i.imgur.com/881SPct.png

Ooh, lookie there! That looks nice.

[Steven_Six]

Listen... I don't know much about all this, but I do have a stupid idea... Really stupid. Back on the other side, if you damaged the person while they were... possessed, there might be a chance for the Stalker getting hurt and not the person. Just a stupid idea... Heh. Probably not even how it works.

[The Nonexistent Tazz]

Speed-X: Millie was described as leaving the Sleepy Valley Apartments and it's almost certainly where she lives.

[Dash]

The drug trip Jeff and what came after may be the final nail in the coffin looking over it. At least in terms of proving Millie guilty.

EDIT: I'm starting to reconsider some things right now, and its making me wonder if Millie is what we believe her to be.

[Chibi Altaria]

http://i.imgur.com/fT0nKVy.png

I always (or at least I should) write down the location of the Pokemon when they're interviewed. Several times Millie was spotted at the Sleepy Valley Apartments.

I'm going to copy my post from the General Chat thread here, and add a couple of things.

http://i.imgur.com/ix9FZF2.png

Poor Millie seems to be having an awful case of identity crisis... *crickets chirp* I'd say we've identified our first Stalker; Koax. It looks as though she knows she'll be taken control of at night, and that she can't help her actions. It's terrible; Millie really does seem like a nice Vaporeon at heart. Someone should call her by her name when they...off her. uvu;;

And on that front, I feel it's probably best to kill the Stalkers. It is true, we don't know what this ritual is exactly, or what it will do. And Adis did say (to Fetcher) that the only way to get rid of the "parasites" was by killing them. But he did not explicitly say the ritual will kill them. We don't even know if the ritual will do that and free the host, or not. In the meantime, the Stalkers will just keep killing. Night will fall and they will kill again. I'm sure even Millie herself wouldn't want any more harm to come to the others. She basically told us to end it for her. It's a grim fate, but I'd say it's something we have to do for the good of the town.

On another note, there's nothing saying the rate of the killings will be less frequent if Millie dies, but that is a risk we either have to take, or not.

[SassySnivy]

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http://i.imgur.com/KnzH078.png

I guess what I meant by that question is if we know what apartment she lives in, exactly. Yes, we know the complex, but do we know the apartment? But...it's really probably not relevant anymore anyway. I guess we'll see.

[Chibi Altaria]

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I guess what I meant by that question is if we know what apartment she lives in, exactly. Yes, we know the complex, but do we know the apartment? But...it's really probably not relevant anymore anyway. I guess we'll see.


http://i.imgur.com/ix9FZF2.png

As far as I know, there hasn't been an exact mention of where she lives. She is just always seen leaving, or hanging around, that area.

[Chakramaster]

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u175/Chakramasters/Pikachu%20icon%2013_zpsfrdgpwcc.png Millie was the one I suspect as the Stalker. Before I said anything or jumped the gun. I wanted absolute proof....too bad it happened overnight while I was sleeping xD.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u175/Chakramasters/Pikachu%20icon%202_zpspgevrjnn.png Her demeanor, the evidence, the note. Even with my meet with her it seemed odd. Nothing flat out incriminating, but still questionable. Then we have the next evidence that linked to her. The note, her reaction after seeing the note. A similar reaction from the Basement in the Apartments. I really do wonder...if there were torturous events that took place. Trying to "experiment" on a "particular" effect. The Apartments seem to have even more hidden facts leading up to it. This whole town is full of the same things. Millie is either being tortured by a Stalker or is one....and I'm willing to bet she IS one of them. Stuck with a "demon" inside of her.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u175/Chakramasters/Pikachu%20icon%2014_zps5entvg8n.png So....sad as it may be...

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u175/Chakramasters/Pikachu%20icon%2018_zpsgjtubvml.png I for one, vote to Assassinate her. Before another innocent Pokemon can die by their (her) paws.

[SassySnivy]

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http://i.imgur.com/m93cMVk.png

Well, guys, when should we do this? Aurimas has already opted towards dealing the coup de grace, if you catch my drift. The only opinions we haven't gotten from semi-active players of the game are Sarah and Ericsaur. It seems like we're all in agreement, for the most part.

[LKWayvern]

http://i.imgur.com/4yw6eKt.png The action's already up there. About the ninth in the queue, by my count.

http://i.imgur.com/A9KSMMi.png I wish there was a better way... But I feel like Millie's been waiting for something like this for a while, now... Maybe two seasons, even...

[Pokemon Trainer Sarah]

http://i.imgur.com/cZp7TJf.png
I feel like there should be another way. If only we could save her... :(
But I understand that's probably not the case, and I'm okay with whatever you guys decide.
I never expected to feel sorry for the Stalkers!

[SassySnivy]

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http://i.imgur.com/snFk8Jf.png

Oh! I guess I missed it, hahah.

[AWA1997]

Now that we know the difference between killing them outright and doing the ritual, I'm even more on the Delphox's side and want to do the ritual without killing any of the stalkers beforehand...

[Steven_Six]

Well, it still helps to at least KNOW who the Stalkers are. Maybe we can restrain them? Or something?

[The Nonexistent Tazz]

I think there is a key difference between our situation and Adis's that we are missing. The Key difference is that, while he was a preist, Adis was ultimately a normal Pokemon up against supernaturally empowered entities and thus could not even consider assassination. As Emissaries, we are supernaturally empowered entities, we would be on even footing in a straight fight (to our knowledge) and could theoretically do a localized 'purify' or somesuch with what powers Mew gave us, methinks.

That being said, I'll defer to the majority. We know who she is and what she asked of us, though...Here's another good question, however. Do we tell someone so that she can be restrained in a county prison? Or do you think that such an act would be equivalent to killing her anyways?

[Steven_Six]

Oh, boy. Well, I imagine if we did that, we'd probably want someone on hand to make sure that the Stalker doesn't go berserk and try to break out... Which means someone would be out of commission for a while, so the rest of us can go off and try for the Sin Purge.

[Pokemon Trainer Sarah]

I don't know that there is exactly a difference between killing them by assassination and killing them by performing the ritual. Sure, we are going on the word of a religious Pokemon who thinks the ritual will save their souls from damnation. Who says they won't be saved from damnation by outright assassination? How would she know the ritual will save their souls while killing them won't? Even if Adis told her that, how could he possibly know that?

[Chibi Altaria]

I don't know that there is exactly a difference between killing them by assassination and killing them by performing the ritual. Sure, we are going on the word of a religious Pokemon who thinks the ritual will save their souls from damnation. Who says they won't be saved from damnation by outright assassination? How would she know the ritual will save their souls while killing them won't? Even if Adis told her that, how could he possibly know that?

http://i.imgur.com/ix9FZF2.png

Not to mention that no one has actually killed a Stalker before, so we don't know if their soul will be damned or saved. That's something we can only learn by trial and error.

[Suicune's Fire]

http://i.imgur.com/C30j6mA.png
I agree. And what's to say that those killed by the stalkers don't get their souls damned too? Then we're keeping someone alive who we KNOW is a Stalker just so we can save her soul, while she goes around killing others and not saving theirs? IMO, she has to go right now. IF we can complete the ritual in time to save the others, then sure, by all means. But right now, we don't, and keeping her alive for her own safety is throwing everyone else's life away, potentially. We're all lucky WE all can't be killed because we have a magical barrier. But what about everyone else?


http://i.imgur.com/XqN7skL.png
Where have we seen a jail? If someone wanted, they could attempt to restrain her in, say, that apartment behind the iron door, but that's torture, right? She may not be able to get out, but she'll go insane in there and maybe even end up killing herself from insanity. After all, if the vessel is trapped, the demon will have no use for her anymore and kill the host, right? And it would certainly take her soul. I guess we could try, but what if it doesn't work and she kills someone instead?


http://i.imgur.com/rVoNRDD.png

Like the others said, we have no way of actually knowing that this 'soul redemption' thing is even legitimate. And if it is...how could Adis know?

[AWA1997]

Neo himself said that the killings will not slow down. I go back to my original comment of if we end up finding out everything about the ritual first, to do it, but if we find all six stalkers first, then we go ahead and kill them. Though I'd rather do the ritual in general.

[Suicune's Fire]

Neo himself said that the killings will not slow down. I go back to my original comment of if we end up finding out everything about the ritual first, to do it, but if we find all six stalkers first, then we go ahead and kill them. Though I'd rather do the ritual in general.

http://i.imgur.com/XqN7skL.png

I think we'd all rather do the ritual... But like you said, if that's not an option, and restraining Stalkers as we find them isn't either, then we need to assassinate them until we can use the ritual. As sad as it is.

[AWA1997]

That's why I say kill them all at once if we find all six before the ritual, or do the ritual if we find all of it first. Whichever comes first.

[Pokemon Trainer Sarah]

I guess there are reasons for both options.

For killing
-confirm that Millie really is a stalker 100%. Sure, we are 99% sure but the mayor has blue scales too. Its not impossible that he locked Millie in the room with the evil essence to make her think she did it and frame her, like what happened to Jeff. None of the other stalkers seem to feel guilt or act weird during the day so maybe she only feels it cos she isn't a real stalker! It's a long shot, but it would rule it out 100%. xD
-no real evidence that there is a difference between killing now or by ritual
-more innocent Pokemon will die in meantime

Against killing
-its possible the ritual does something different to souls, but who knows
-neo confirmed that even if there are less stalkers, there won't be less kills, so we won't necessarily be saving Pokemon anyway

[The Nonexistent Tazz]

My personal advice is the plan of killing as we go. In theory, there is no benefit to killing them-the killings won't slow down. However-and this is a point-we are dealing with Daemonic forces here, and likely as any the methods of killing aren't just to be gruesome, but to also ensnare the other souls in the process. I wouldn't put it past 'em.

It's a bloody business, bates, but stalling it out isn't gonna do anything for us. the only real reason I'm all for assassinating them now is simple: we do not know if we will find the rest of the Sin Purge Ritual. Do we know where the rest of the pieces are? Can we confirm that we will get them beforehand? My advice is, do not take chances. We may find information that helps us pin down the other Stalkers in the process. That is something we can do. On the other hand, We don't know if if we will ever find all of the Sin Purge ritual steps. The same could be said of the Stalkers, sure, and we have found quite a few pieces, but mind you there are seven steps and of the seven we only have knowledge of four, and we're not even sure if we will find all the steps.

My vote is still firmly Asassination. It's a disservice for Millie to continue this torment on her. Plus, while the killings may not slow down, by Neo's word, with Millie (and thus Koax) obviously found out, who's to say Koax won't increase the speed at which they kill as a response?

[Chibi Altaria]

http://i.imgur.com/90HVLpk.png

Pokemon Trainer Sarah

So with the assassination cancelled... I can't believe I forgot that Blastoise is a turtle, and therefore have scales. ;O; So the two suspects for that are both Millie AND Pashner. While Millie is still 99% confirmed to be a Stalker, I was reminded of what I said about the interview with the Mayor. The rapport was Positive, so we can assume something about that was useful or correct. Pashner pointed us to three Pokemon he suspected: Fetcher, Daz and Marche. Fetcher and Marche are so far ruled out (thanks to the samples), so that leaves Daz. Pasher could have either; given us a lead with Daz to remove suspicion from himself, or given us all false information to make us follow leads other than himself. Or something. xD

Millie seemed to be having some kind of "identity crisis" where she kept repeating her name. We can assume that she is trying to fight the Enthraller, but Shadefetch may have also gotten to her and somehow framed her. Although seeing as she didn't deny writing the Twisted Note, and the fact she's been seen at the apartments where Koax's room is, this makes the idea seem like a rather long shot. Food for thought, anyway.

The other option is we kill Millie anyway. If it turns out she wasn't a Stalker...well, we know who is.

[AWA1997]

Wouldn't it be best to kill them all at once that way we have a chance at the ritual for them all, but we can also immediately stop them if we find all six before we finish gathering the ritual pieces. It will not lead to any more or less death if we do it all at once like that. And it opens up both paths to victory until one is right at hand.

[Suicune's Fire]

My personal advice is the plan of killing as we go. In theory, there is no benefit to killing them-the killings won't slow down. However-and this is a point-we are dealing with Daemonic forces here, and likely as any the methods of killing aren't just to be gruesome, but to also ensnare the other souls in the process. I wouldn't put it past 'em.

It's a bloody business, bates, but stalling it out isn't gonna do anything for us. the only real reason I'm all for assassinating them now is simple: we do not know if we will find the rest of the Sin Purge Ritual. Do we know where the rest of the pieces are? Can we confirm that we will get them beforehand? My advice is, do not take chances. We may find information that helps us pin down the other Stalkers in the process. That is something we can do. On the other hand, We don't know if if we will ever find all of the Sin Purge ritual steps. The same could be said of the Stalkers, sure, and we have found quite a few pieces, but mind you there are seven steps and of the seven we only have knowledge of four, and we're not even sure if we will find all the steps.

My vote is still firmly Asassination. It's a disservice for Millie to continue this torment on her. Plus, while the killings may not slow down, by Neo's word, with Millie (and thus Koax) obviously found out, who's to say Koax won't increase the speed at which they kill as a response?
Going along with this "Pashner could be the other blue-scale suspect" theory... Maybe we should make sure 100% that Millie IS a stalker. If she's just being messed with and she never actually killed anyone, then it's possible she was framed. After all, nobody caught her in the act, and the only "evidence" we have is a confession...which could have been an idea put into her head by someone else. You know, similarly to what happened to you. O_o It's clear she wrote it, because she recognised it, but what if she thinks she killed but she didn't? Maybe interviewing Pashner again, or searching his place would yield something useful... Okay, he doesn't have a "place." He just has the town hall... but surely he can't live there, right? A key was found at the town hall, but he didn't know about it. Whoever put it there couldn't...trust him? What if Adis put the key behind (http://www.pokemoncrossroads.com/forum/showthread.php?11704-Main-Action-and-Team-Status-Thread-NOW-LIVE!&p=221289&viewfull=1#post221289) the "chair meant for fully evolved pokemon" to subtly point the finger to Pashner, considering it appeared he hadn't seen the key?

...It's all theory, but suddenly I'm becoming suspicious of Pashner.

[The Nonexistent Tazz]

...I think you're really working this ONE thing at the Disorder door beyond the importance it may actually have, as creepy as it was. Any court of law would have looked at the evidence we have (a DNA test, a killer hideout with papers connected to the killer and one explicitly telling us that Millie did it, Millie's confession, the fact that the Stalkers are fighting back) and said Millie is very guilty.

Also, unless Trinka just lied to us-which, in all honesty, is unlikely as Fetcher's talk has backed her up-What has been shown of Enthrallers has matched up with how Millie is behaving, up to really freaking out at the sundown.

[Suicune's Fire]

...I think you're really working this ONE thing at the Disorder door beyond the importance it may actually have, as creepy as it was. Any court of law would have looked at the evidence we have (a DNA test, a killer hideout with papers connected to the killer and one explicitly telling us that Millie did it, Millie's confession, the fact that the Stalkers are fighting back) and said Millie is very guilty.

Also, unless Trinka just lied to us-which, in all honesty, is unlikely as Fetcher's talk has backed her up-What has been shown of Enthrallers has matched up with how Millie is behaving, up to really freaking out at the sundown.
It's not the Disorder door; it's the fact that the only other pokemon in the whole town with blue scales is the mayor. Yeah, haha, and the court of law has its flaws. I was convinced she was guilty, but all I'm saying is that there's a slight chance that the mayor is suspicious.

I'm not suggesting she lied. The theory is still is a possibility. As long as I'm sure Millie's the Stalker, I'm fine with assassinating her.

[Chibi Altaria]

http://i.imgur.com/ix9FZF2.png

If we assassinate her and she's not the Stalker, then we know the mayor certainly is.

Another thing to take into account is that the Enthrallers take the passions, interests, jobs etc. of the Pokemon and turn them into something twisted. Was Millie into reading, or poetry? And does that have anything to do with hearts? The create/destroy thing with the poems fits with Millie possibly fighting off the Enthraller. She didn't deny writing the Twisted Note, and she did act strangely when the sun was setting. Repeating her own name could be seen as Mille trying to fight off the Enthraller, or trying to reaffirm her identity if Shadefetch somehow got to her. Also the Iron Key in "Koax's" room led us to that room with the Disorder Door. That hallucinogen seemed Shadefetch related. There's something up with that...

And on the door was an inscription: NO, YOU'RE USELESS!!!!!

[Suicune's Fire]

http://i.imgur.com/XqN7skL.png

Millie's story is really sad... She seems to just be battling with herself. I interpreted the 'create and destroy' like you; she's fighting herself off. Like she's creating it, then snapping back to herself and trying to destroy it out of horror at herself, but then keeps switching between the demon and herself. Is anyone actually going to take the step to assassinate her? Or are we still not sure yet?


http://i.imgur.com/rVoNRDD.png

Once my action takes place, I'll assassinate her.

[Pokemon Trainer Sarah]

Yeah I know Millie being the stalker is more likely but it could still fit all the clues if it was Pashner.

-His suspicion of Fletcher and Marche seemed to be incorrect, assuming the samples are right, and also because we didn't find anything suspicious upon interviewing them. Did he throw them out there to remove suspicion from himself? Jury is out on Daz.
-Being the mayor, he probably knows what's going on in the town. Pashner may have been one of the few who knew what Adis was up to. Do we know how Adis was killed? Would be interesting if it was by Koax.
-If he knew that Adis had a blue scale sample, he would know the only other person in town who he could frame would be Millie, and go after her, leading her to that room to trick her into thinking she is Koax and writing the false confession.
-Good point about hobbies/interests. Does Pashner like poetry and reading? Nothing was mentioned in the town hall about books. We don't know where he lives either.

Some suspicious info from his interview with Katie:
-"he doesn't seem too fazed about what would normally bring a lot of stress to other Pokémon if they were in his position."
-"he looks to you with a smug, arrogant smile."

Shouldn't a mayor be more worried that his town is basically self destructing? :O

Yeah I don't necessarily believe it, but I like conspiracy theories. XD






The other thing to consider is the room in the Sleepy Valley Apartments where Millie has been hanging around. The basement door said:
"Only those special enough to secure my soul will pass through these gates."

Does "securing" a soul mean performing the ritual rather than killing her? Maybe it does make a difference...

[Chibi Altaria]

Pokemon Trainer Sarah Are we actually able to secure souls, though? Maybe it was more figurative? o:

[Pokemon Trainer Sarah]

@Pokemon Trainer Sarah Are we actually able to secure souls, though? Maybe it was more figurative? o:

Yeah I have no idea. Maybe "saving a soul from damnation" = securing = ritual.

Neo's reluctance to comment on the "damned souls" thing made me wonder if there was something more to it. xD

But it could just as easily be nothing.

[Suicune's Fire]

Yeah I know Millie being the stalker is more likely but it could still fit all the clues if it was Pashner.

-His suspicion of Fletcher and Marche seemed to be incorrect, assuming the samples are right, and also because we didn't find anything suspicious upon interviewing them. Did he throw them out there to remove suspicion from himself? Jury is out on Daz.
-Being the mayor, he probably knows what's going on in the town. Pashner may have been one of the few who knew what Adis was up to. Do we know how Adis was killed? Would be interesting if it was by Koax.
-If he knew that Adis had a blue scale sample, he would know the only other person in town who he could frame would be Millie, and go after her, leading her to that room to trick her into thinking she is Koax and writing the false confession.
-Good point about hobbies/interests. Does Pashner like poetry and reading? Nothing was mentioned in the town hall about books. We don't know where he lives either.

Some suspicious info from his interview with Katie:
-"he doesn't seem too fazed about what would normally bring a lot of stress to other Pokémon if they were in his position."
-"he looks to you with a smug, arrogant smile."

Shouldn't a mayor be more worried that his town is basically self destructing? :O

Yeah I don't necessarily believe it, but I like conspiracy theories. XD
Exactly. All good points. I think we should definitely find out how Adis was killed... And don't forget that there was a Cross Arch key hidden in the town hall probably by Adis... And Pashner didn't know about it. Sounds like Adis didn't trust Pashner. I agree with you; none of this is concrete, but it's worth considering!


The other thing to consider is the room in the Sleepy Valley Apartments where Millie has been hanging around. The basement door said:
"Only those special enough to secure my soul will pass through these gates."

Does "securing" a soul mean performing the ritual rather than killing her? Maybe it does make a difference...
I wonder too... Though what could possibly be granted to us if we use the ritual instead of kill her? Her soul? xD Like, in a jar?

[Chibi Altaria]

Can we interview Pashner or Millie again to find out what their jobs/hobbies/interests are? O:

[Suicune's Fire]

Can we interview Pashner or Millie again to find out what their jobs/hobbies/interests are? O:
Sounds harmless and potentially useful to me. I won't be of any use... xD

[Chibi Altaria]

Sounds harmless and potentially useful to me. I won't be of any use... xD

Dash would get a Very Positive rapport if he interviewed either. Or anyone without a disadvantage could try.

[Dash]

@Lunar Latias (http://www.pokemoncrossroads.com/forum/member.php?u=2851)

I only get a Positive. Legendaries don't count as a full evolution. Proof is when I interviewed Millie about the note. But I can interview Pashner.

[Chibi Altaria]

@Lunar Latias (http://www.pokemoncrossroads.com/forum/member.php?u=2851)

I only get a Positive. Legendaries don't count as a full evolution. Proof is when I interviewed Millie about the note. But I can interview Pashner.

Oooh, really? My mistake then. But thanks if you want to interview Pashner. :D

[The Nonexistent Tazz]

Uhh, perhaps Adis didn't go about Pashner because he was the Mayor, and thus probably a very busy Pokemon with no real free time to do what Adis asked of him safely?

[Suicune's Fire]

Uhh, perhaps Adis didn't go about Pashner because he was the Mayor, and thus probably a very busy Pokemon with no real free time to do what Adis asked of him safely?
Yes, and perhaps not. x) Nobody's asking you to do anything. Relax.