PxR Merchandise?

[XaiakuX]

So I was thinking about it. What if if HKim made up a PxR profile on something like Spreadshirt (http://www.spreadshirt.com/) or Storenvy (https://www.storenvy.com/). Then people from the forum create designs to put up for sale that are PxR related things. We couldn't honestly use licensed Pokemon imagery, but artists find ways around that (Such as drawing it themselves. o:). Things like my PxR Team Awesome shirt, that could be on the Pokemon Crossroads profile, too. You all were looking for ways to make a bit of profit for the forum, so this is an idea.

This is also probably an idea that has already come up. I know that spreadshirt throws shirts out there for like, 6.50. Adding designs to it bumps it to like, 3.50 per image. then you add your own price to it. Say 2 or 3 dollars, then you have a shirt there that runs for about $13. Which is cheap for a T-Shirt, now-a-days. PxR makes the 2-3 dollars, and members get merchandise. win-win. Or the cheaper route. 6.00 for a 5 pack of pins with the PxR Logo on it. PxR makes a dollar per pack, and those would probably sell easier than a shirt or a hoodie. This is all my experience with Spreadshirt. I have no idea how Storenvy works. But my friend uses it, and makes a decent profit.

[HKim]

Would it be possible for you to ask your friend how Sorenvy works?

Does anyone else have experience with these sites/companies?

[Winter]

I don't know about anyone else here, but I would love me some PXR merch--great way to advertise, though, if we could get artists willing to do art for such things. Would also have to be wary of potential copyright issues.

And sorry, HKim , I do not have experience with those kinds of things.

[Noblejanobii]

We'd have to wait about a year before I'd be able to purchase any merchandise but I'd be on board with it.

[XaiakuX]

Would it be possible for you to ask your friend how Sorenvy works?

Does anyone else have experience with these sites/companies?
I'm currently learning it on my own. Turns out my friend isn't as reliable with information as I thought.

I don't know about anyone else here, but I would love me some PXR merch--great way to advertise, though, if we could get artists willing to do art for such things. Would also have to be wary of potential copyright issues.

And sorry, HKim , I do not have experience with those kinds of things.

Any artist who we get to do it should be from PxR, and I would assume they'd be able to just create the design and give PxR the rights to their artwork. As long as we don't use the Pokémon Logo, or any official imagery when we sell the products, there shouldn't be any copyright issues with Pokemon and Gamefreak.

[Pokemon Trainer Sarah]

I think this is a great idea. We have lots of talented artists that may be willing to donate a drawing for merch or something. :D Pokemon themed t-shirts are everywhere so I assume it should be fine as long as we don't use official art. I'd love a PXR t-shirt!

[Suicune's Fire]

I've never had any experience with these sites, but if XaiakuX can do it, I'm totally all for it! :D We can definitely have a bunch of different designs. Leaning how the site works and its pricing would be handy, especially if, for instance, we need to pay them for each design we put up for sale...which I assume we do. xD Then maybe start small and expand. I think a top with the PXR logo on it is an awesome idea too. :] Among other designs, of course!

[XaiakuX]

I've never had any experience with these sites, but if XaiakuX can do it, I'm totally all for it! :D We can definitely have a bunch of different designs. Leaning how the site works and its pricing would be handy, especially if, for instance, we need to pay them for each design we put up for sale...which I assume we do. xD Then maybe start small and expand. I think a top with the PXR logo on it is an awesome idea too. :] Among other designs, of course!

The design use is a little complicated but I'll try to explain it. At least with spreadshirt, because i'm still learning storenvy, uploading the design is absolutely free. The use of it on a T-Shirt usually runs 3.50 per image used. This usually only adds to the total cost of the shirt. So it's better to make an image that will use up most of the space on the shirt, unless you want it to be in a specific spot. Because using several small images makes a $6.50 shirt a $20.00 shirt, and lolno. From what I've learned, you need the dimensions to be about 13w x 17h in inches. If your images is too big, it usually autosizes it. I wanted to run with Storenvy because you can put up pre-order options to kinda set up for it. However it's a bit more confusing to use than Spreadshirt.

[SimplyPixelizing]

That'd be cute, but I'm not sure how profit/sales would go. I guess it's always nice to have it though haha.

[XaiakuX]

That'd be cute, but I'm not sure how profit/sales would go. I guess it's always nice to have it though haha.

I thought about the financial pull this would have. My conclusion is that the profits would instantly go to the upkeep and improvement of PxR's website and forum. Maybe even into the promotion of the site, to bring in more people, and more potential sales of merchandise. It's a potential circle of success. People want something fresh, and something cool that they can wear on their bodies. That's where the real challenge lies in selling graphic tees and merchandise. This directly affects the sales of the merchandise as well. I've had way too much time to learn and discover multiple aspects of this venture. xD

[Chakramaster]

I thought about the financial pull this would have. My conclusion is that the profits would instantly go to the upkeep and improvement of PxR's website and forum. Maybe even into the promotion of the site, to bring in more people, and more potential sales of merchandise. It's a potential circle of success. People want something fresh, and something cool that they can wear on their bodies. That's where the real challenge lies in selling graphic tees and merchandise. This directly affects the sales of the merchandise as well. I've had way too much time to learn and discover multiple aspects of this venture. xD

It may start out slow is the only thing I would think. As more news for new games get released, events, and of course, artist fan art would all change over time. It would also have low sales at time, but I'd be one to support it if it happened. I may not be an artist or relatively good at drawing like...at ALL, but I'm one that's always thinking up ideas for things.

[Severin]

I'd totally buy PXR T-shirts. I'm a sucker for merchandise, because I just want to support everything I love.

[Chibi Altaria]

I'm all for drawing/creating designs for merch and stuff. I dunno how the site works, but I like to learn new things.

[XaiakuX]

I'm all for drawing/creating designs for merch and stuff. I dunno how the site works, but I like to learn new things.

Actually, you're a name that has popped up a lot in the sporadic conversations that have taken place about this idea. Mostly because of your hand in designing the site and its logo. You're probably the most technically sound designer this board has. I haven't been around recently, so I don't know if any of the other artists are as educated as you are. My first idea, actually, was to put the PxR logo that you designed for the front page, and basically the whole website, on a T-Shirt, and see how that one concept went. As it stands that one T-Shirt could sell enough to invest in some promotional advertising, which could potentially bring more people to PxR in general, as well as more potential sales and support to the merchandise and website as a whole.

It's basically up to HKim to see where he wants to go with it. I'd be all for helping put it all together, I would just need to acquire permissions to use various artworks, because a lawsuit is definitely something I'm looking to avoid. xD

[Chibi Altaria]

Actually, you're a name that has popped up a lot in the sporadic conversations that have taken place about this idea. Mostly because of your hand in designing the site and its logo. You're probably the most technically sound designer this board has. I haven't been around recently, so I don't know if any of the other artists are as educated as you are. My first idea, actually, was to put the PxR logo that you designed for the front page, and basically the whole website, on a T-Shirt, and see how that one concept went. As it stands that one T-Shirt could sell enough to invest in some promotional advertising, which could potentially bring more people to PxR in general, as well as more potential sales and support to the merchandise and website as a whole.

It's basically up to HKim to see where he wants to go with it. I'd be all for helping put it all together, I would just need to acquire permissions to use various artworks, because a lawsuit is definitely something I'm looking to avoid. xD

Oh, well looks like I was on board before I even volunteered then. xD I'm sure there's quite a few other artists who would like to help out with this, too. I know Xanthe and Sarah would probably be glad to help, and Speed-X and Velocity too, perhaps? While I'm at it, I'll probably want to locate the PXR logo and see if it's still alright, or if it needs to be fixed up a bit. xD /hasbecomeabetterdesigner The logo would actually look pretty cool on a t-shirt, imo.

I'm not a busy person (at all), but that sounds like a win-win situation! And if not, well there isn't much to lose! I say we do it. :cool:

Aha, yeah. Well as long as we don't use official artwork in our designs, and have the artist's permission (I suggest in writing cause you never know), I'd say we're pretty much fine. We'll need like, a Terms & Conditions written somewhere. Not that anyone really reads them, but it's good to have.

[XaiakuX]

The down side, I'm pretty sure we can't use the term "Pokémon" on anything written, unless we get permission to do so, because right now, there's no copyright infringement being done by PxR, Because we aren't trying to make profit on the word. A pokeball that is entirely blue, or red, or green probably won't be counted as a pokeball, because we aren't using an exact image. Copyright is tricky business, though. One would actually have to look through Pokemon/Game Freak's Copyright policies to see what we can and can't do. I say this because people create images of Pokemon all the time and sell them on t-shirts. But I think it's because it's their own unique artwork and not official art, they can do that without acquired permissions. However none of them have used the word Pokémon on their designs or merchandise. So I think if we only use the logo and something like PxR, as opposed to Pokemon Crossroads written out, we should be okay.

I'd also be a contributing artist when I actually get around to getting a new PC. My current PC actually died during the move and I can't use it anymore. That should happen sometime in the next month. Of course, I'll have my own clothing line to work on, as well. I'll have to do a juggling act. Because there's only one worthwhile design on it, so I need to come up with more.

[Chibi Altaria]

The down side, I'm pretty sure we can't use the term "Pokémon" on anything written, unless we get permission to do so, because right now, there's no copyright infringement being done by PxR, Because we aren't trying to make profit on the word. A pokeball that is entirely blue, or red, or green probably won't be counted as a pokeball, because we aren't using an exact image. Copyright is tricky business, though. One would actually have to look through Pokemon/Game Freak's Copyright policies to see what we can and can't do. I say this because people create images of Pokemon all the time and sell them on t-shirts. But I think it's because it's their own unique artwork and not official art, they can do that without acquired permissions. However none of them have used the word Pokémon on their designs or merchandise. So I think if we only use the logo and something like PxR, as opposed to Pokemon Crossroads written out, we should be okay.

I'd also be a contributing artist when I actually get around to getting a new PC. My current PC actually died during the move and I can't use it anymore. That should happen sometime in the next month. Of course, I'll have my own clothing line to work on, as well. I'll have to do a juggling act. Because there's only one worthwhile design on it, so I need to come up with more.

That should be fine, as long as the artwork is our own. Just no text that sits on copyright infringement, basically. But who needs text, anyway, when you have pretty imagery. xD The logo will be fine, as well. Think about it, there are a LOT of games out there similar to Pokemon (I'm referring to apps) and they have more of a chance to be sued than we are.

I have actually seen a fair few t-shirt designs with Pokemon related text on them, but I do suggest we try and avoid that route. Copyright is a very touchy subject. I learned in art that 'appropriation' is fine, although the subject has to be changed enough that it avoids any issues. If we're selling our own art, that's fine. However we can't make a profit by adding trademarked text.

If we were to say, create a Charmander design with the word 'Ember!" on it, though, that would be fair game. The word 'ember' itself isn't trademarked at all - it's just a regular word.

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http://kirawra.deviantart.com/art/The-Truth-About-Selling-Fanart-212570726

I found that, though. And technically anything making a profit off of fanart is considered illegal. However, it's a really grey area, since a LOT of people actually do it. *shrugs* It's up to Harry if he wants to or not. :3

[HKim]

Who would be in charge of this and would I be under any financial obligations if things don't pan out?

[Chakramaster]

Actually, you're a name that has popped up a lot in the sporadic conversations that have taken place about this idea. Mostly because of your hand in designing the site and its logo. You're probably the most technically sound designer this board has. I haven't been around recently, so I don't know if any of the other artists are as educated as you are. My first idea, actually, was to put the PxR logo that you designed for the front page, and basically the whole website, on a T-Shirt, and see how that one concept went. As it stands that one T-Shirt could sell enough to invest in some promotional advertising, which could potentially bring more people to PxR in general, as well as more potential sales and support to the merchandise and website as a whole.

It's basically up to HKim to see where he wants to go with it. I'd be all for helping put it all together, I would just need to acquire permissions to use various artworks, because a lawsuit is definitely something I'm looking to avoid. xD

Well it's not just that. They've been hitting the copyright edge a lot harder lately too. So almost anything similar would have to be taken with extra caution. Even something similar would need to be looked at carefully. So when anything does get designed it doesn't flat out say "Pokemon" of course.

[XaiakuX]

Who would be in charge of this and would I be under any financial obligations if things don't pan out?

Financial obligations, I would certainly think not. It doesn't cost anything to create a shop in one of the sites I listed at the beginning of all this. As far as people in charge, Any initial profits I feel would have to go directly to you. So any email and and mailing addresses should probably be yours. Now if this thing REALLY takes off, then of course profits to the contributing artists, because money is always nice. But my plan for myself wasn't to make money, but to help PxR in the best way that I know how to. Which is pretty much selling stuff to people. xD

We would probably need a small team to run the project. Someone with some know how about the navigation of these merchandising sites. I'm a stickler for spreadshirt because it's a lot easier to navigate. Sure, Spreadshirt takes some profit to make the shirts and send em out, but you still get paid a decent chunk per item sold. Like, if you sell a shirt, and you put a number on that shirt over the standard price of Spreadshirt, you get that amount of dollars. I would start small, like 5 or 6 dollars. Make the shirts or what have you affordable. It may be steep, but there's a few bucks you didn't have before towards the site.

Storenvy is a little trickier, from what I understand. Storenvy doesn't cost you anything to sell the merchandise off of their site, however you'd have to pay an actual shirt making output to make the shirts in bulk and then send them to you, so you can sell them that way. Upside to that little tidbit, is that it costs less out of pocket the more you order, and if you sell the merchandise for a little more than you paid for, you can turn out a reasonable profit. Spreadshirt also just sorta plasters your image on a shirt and is like "This is about what it'll look like when you buy it." While with Storenvy you again have to go offsite to create a mock up image (which isn't too insanely difficult.) to advertise on your shop.

Basically, what I'm saying is that Spreadshirt will bring you a little less profit, but they kinda do everything for you, and it's a lot easier. xD

So we'll need a person who can actually be the base of operations. The person where the profits will go to when the clothes and etc. start selling. Which we should just do T-shirts for the time being.

We'll need a person with know how of whichever site you want to go with, OR we can go with both, but that is going to take a bit more work and know how than I have.

We'll need a person with a bit more legal know how on the whole copyright infringement thing. Because I know bits and pieces, but not enough to honestly stop us from getting sued by a big time company like Game Freak.

Finally we'll need artists to contribute art, who are willing to go without getting paid for said artwork until we get this thing kicked off and running smoothly. Which at that stage we'll probably need a little more people on the team. xD

But, yeah, it shouldn't cost you anything if this bombs. If it does bomb, it's literally dead in the water, and there is no harm done to anyone's wallets.

[XaiakuX]

That should be fine, as long as the artwork is our own. Just no text that sits on copyright infringement, basically. But who needs text, anyway, when you have pretty imagery. xD The logo will be fine, as well. Think about it, there are a LOT of games out there similar to Pokemon (I'm referring to apps) and they have more of a chance to be sued than we are.

I have actually seen a fair few t-shirt designs with Pokemon related text on them, but I do suggest we try and avoid that route. Copyright is a very touchy subject. I learned in art that 'appropriation' is fine, although the subject has to be changed enough that it avoids any issues. If we're selling our own art, that's fine. However we can't make a profit by adding trademarked text.

If we were to say, create a Charmander design with the word 'Ember!" on it, though, that would be fair game. The word 'ember' itself isn't trademarked at all - it's just a regular word.

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http://kirawra.deviantart.com/art/The-Truth-About-Selling-Fanart-212570726

I found that, though. And technically anything making a profit off of fanart is considered illegal. However, it's a really grey area, since a LOT of people actually do it. *shrugs* It's up to Harry if he wants to or not. :3


Well it's not just that. They've been hitting the copyright edge a lot harder lately too. So almost anything similar would have to be taken with extra caution. Even something similar would need to be looked at carefully. So when anything does get designed it doesn't flat out say "Pokemon" of course.

I know this is a double post, but it's my thread. =P

I think we should shy away from "Pokemon" as the initial selling point, and focus more on the "PxR" aspect. Come up with unique designs that say HEY, WE'RE A POKEMON FORUM, but not actually have anything Pokemon related in it. Tough job, I know. But I think the trio logo that Gemma designed would be an acceptable design. I know that completely goes against what I just said, because there's obvious Pokemon related imagery in the logo, but I'm about 99% certain Game Freak or anyone else can't get us for that. The balls don't resemble any actual official Pokeballs, with exceptions to the red one.

Basically we shouldn't come up with something that looks like a charmander, call it a charmander, and try to sell it. However, like Gemma said, if we come up with something that looks VAGUELY like a charmander, call it ember, and try to sell it, we should be okay.

EDIT: Of course I read that thing Gemma posted after I post.

So, here's what I gather, now. If PxR obtains permissions from Game Freak, probably going to cost one time out of pocket, or they get some permanent percentage of profits earned, or something to that effect. But with those permissions we can see a vast majority of Pokemon related merchandise. We would basically be in a very unwanted partnership with Game Freak, so it's really up to HKim if we wanted to do something like that.

In my opinion, if we want to sell shirts and merchandise, we should keep to our own original works, and not lean towards Pokemon so heavily. But obviously enough to let people know we're a Pokemon Community. So this would be a challenge, but certainly not the toughest anyone has faced on this forum. xD

[Chibi Altaria]

I don't understand how we can promote a forum about Pokemon without anything Pokemon related in it. .-.

If I wanted to sell my original works, I'd make my own business. xD

[XaiakuX]

I don't understand how we can promote a forum about Pokemon without anything Pokemon related in it. .-.

If I wanted to sell my original works, I'd make my own business. xD

Yeah, yeah. I know. x.x

Hmm. Okay. Pokemon clearly has to be a go, here. So as long as we don't use official stuff, or any level of trademark fonts texts or imagery, we should be okay. To the point of not writing out the word Pokemon or typing words in the PoKéMoN font.

By the way, we can totally blame Pokemon for the reason that became a writing style on the internet. That is literally how their logo is. =P

Man, I already have ideas for stuff, I need to write these down before I lose them. My brain sucks.

But yeah, that's what I'm going with. Legally speaking we can't sell fanart of Pokemon. But we can sell imagery which is loosely based on Pokemon. However you want to interpret that is up to you. xD

Let me use an example from an idea I just had. Bear in mind that I absolutely love macabre and horror based things (which is why I enjoyed Until Dawn so much.).

So imagining this on a white T-Shirt: Scizor's head, or the general shape of it. Erase the eyes, replace them with transparent holes that would obviously show the white t-shirt behind it. Age the metal significantly, losing the luster and shine, adding a bit of rust, cracks, scratches, and deep cuts. Then put a shadowy haze around it to make it more ghoulish and/or menacing? It's not really a Scizor anymore is it? Just an empty decayed shell of what once was. I believe this would fly without any legal issue.

Of course, I wouldn't recommend starting out with a design like this, because I don't think parents would let their kids run around with images of dead Pokemon on their chests. This is something I'd reserve for Halloween or something. This was more or less what I think would be on the levels of acceptable. It was an image based on Pokemon, but nothing you would actually see in the anime, manga or games, nor anything Game Freak would likely sell. That's sort of what aim for. Not necessarily, like hey, let's mess it up to where it's unrecognizable. It doesn't need to be horror-based, like my brain likes to do. But alternative, definitely, officially unofficial. I think we can get by with that.

I really hope I'm not being too confusing.

[Chakramaster]

Well that's another thing. It could be symbols, but it can't be like direct image of Charmander, Pikachu, or some other Pokemon. Somethin similar? Maybe, but it's kinda throw it off if it's another random creature.....hmm.

I could imagine one of something like a PXR where like the "X" sticks through both the P and R. Something like typing with like fire, water, electricity, but I don't know if adding a creature of similar design of what on it. Most definitely no direct "Pokemon" slapped on there.

Sometimes there's ways around it. So all it takes is finding that path

[XaiakuX]

Well that's another thing. It could be symbols, but it can't be like direct image of Charmander, Pikachu, or some other Pokemon. Somethin similar? Maybe, but it's kinda throw it off if it's another random creature.....hmm.

I could imagine one of something like a PXR where like the "X" sticks through both the P and R. Something like typing with like fire, water, electricity, but I don't know if adding a creature of similar design of what on it. Most definitely no direct "Pokemon" slapped on there.

Sometimes there's ways around it. So all it takes is finding that path


http://i650.photobucket.com/albums/uu222/SirX-kun/pxrshirtdesign.png

Did I do it right?

But that's actually kinda what I meant. PxR, instead of Pokemon. But still giving off that subtle hint that it's about Pokemon. All the same, it might come down to more obvious measures than combining Pokemon types with various PxR Logos. xD

[Chakramaster]

Pretty much something like that. You even added like an elemental effect in the spaces between the X which works to an advantage. Yeah it's just going to take some thought on the whole idea along with work from the artists offering a hand in the designs. Sounds like it would be really great though!

[Chibi Altaria]

Well that allows us to work with our logo of PXR (and by logo I mean the actual PXR being a logo), but not a whole lot else. Maybe I'll start with that. xD

I'll see if I can come up with an actual 'PXR' word logo, and perhaps modify the old one a little.

EDIT: I wonder, do the Pokemon OCs from my fan-fic count as a copyright infringement? O:

[XaiakuX]

Pretty much something like that. You even added like an elemental effect in the spaces between the X which works to an advantage. Yeah it's just going to take some thought on the whole idea along with work from the artists offering a hand in the designs. Sounds like it would be really great though!

Bruh, don't take that image seriously. xD I did that in like 30 seconds with MS Paint.



Well that allows us to work with our logo of PXR (and by logo I mean the actual PXR being a logo), but not a whole lot else. Maybe I'll start with that. xD

I'll see if I can come up with an actual 'PXR' word logo, and perhaps modify the old one a little.

EDIT: I wonder, do the Pokemon OCs from my fan-fic count as a copyright infringement? O:

Writing out PXR with some shiny effects is easy enough. Unless you plan on going full on elaborate detail with it. Which seems up your alley. Which is totally cool, too! The fancier it is, the better.

OC Pokemon? Are these actual Pokemon with different names, or Pokemon you made up? Fakemon definitely won't get hit with a copyright. Otherwise, a Pikachu with a neat hairstyle and a bandana is still a Pikachu. =P

[Chakramaster]

Bruh, don't take that image seriously. xD I did that in like 30 seconds with MS Paint.

LOL I know, I just meant that was kind of the idea I had, or you hit the idea spot on for what I mentioned. I expected nothing special to just pop right out like with that idea I mentioned.

[Chibi Altaria]

Writing out PXR with some shiny effects is easy enough. Unless you plan on going full on elaborate detail with it. Which seems up your alley. Which is totally cool, too! The fancier it is, the better.

OC Pokemon? Are these actual Pokemon with different names, or Pokemon you made up? Fakemon definitely won't get hit with a copyright. Otherwise, a Pikachu with a neat hairstyle and a bandana is still a Pikachu. =P

Hmm, uh, not quite sure yet. xD Although fancy is totally my style so I guess we'll see. Or I could do multiples! PXR minimal, PXR retro, PXR fancy-super-detailed. Lawls.

Nah, nah, not like Fakemon, like actual Pokemon. xD I suppose it was really hoping for too much that my lovely fan-fic characters could get some time in the spotlight. <3 I'll just stick to drawing them then lol. And yeah, but my Pikachu's slick styled hair and bandana are awesome. >.>

[XaiakuX]

Hmm, uh, not quite sure yet. xD Although fancy is totally my style so I guess we'll see. Or I could do multiples! PXR minimal, PXR retro, PXR fancy-super-detailed. Lawls.

Nah, nah, not like Fakemon, like actual Pokemon. xD I suppose it was really hoping for too much that my lovely fan-fic characters could get some time in the spotlight. <3 I'll just stick to drawing them then lol. And yeah, but my Pikachu's slick styled hair and bandana are awesome. >.>

Heck yeah. Bring up a few different concepts and we can use a few or all of them. I mean, the way the logo is, maybe make one Blue, Green, and Red over a black, white, or grey shirt. We could even throw them on those zipper-less hooded sweaters. I forget what they're called. Maybe even those little can sleeves, coozies? Koosies? Koozy? pfft. There's a ton of possibilities when it comes to that.

SPEAKING OF! I should forewarn not everything on Spreadshirt is available for designs. I think this is stupid, and I hate it. So certain hats, clothes, and accessories will tell you that you can't put a design on it. However a lot of the time it's because of file dimensions, file type, and a few other things. The only one I've come to figure out well enough are the shirts. So we can just as easily do that. I've been reading into the details of restrictions and such, and hopefully soon we'll be able to put PxR on Hats, Phone cases, and other things that have hindered me, personally. xD

BUT! I'm jumping the gun. Let's first get an account set up if we're going to be serious about this. I have my own spreadshirt, but I don't want to put PxR stuff on it, because then the money would go to me, and not PxR. As it stands I'm terrible with financial upkeep so I'd rather HKim do it, and then allow me, and/or the team that is willing to help with this, the Log-in info for the account, then I can take it from there as far as uploads, design placement, and pricing.

As far as pricing, like I said, it'll start out low, because of a couple reasons. 1. Americans are cheap. If you're paying more than 20 dollars for a T-shirt, you're either rich, or insane. 2. We aren't a big product, we aren't famous. To come out of the fences with high dollar merchandise would likely hurt us more than help us. So the PxR profit margin will be low at first. But the way I see it, if you make a 5 dollar profit off of a shirt that you didn't pay any money to sell, that's 5 dollars you didn't have before. Spreadshirt makes it easy, despite it's several complications. xD

[HKim]

Heck yeah. Bring up a few different concepts and we can use a few or all of them. I mean, the way the logo is, maybe make one Blue, Green, and Red over a black, white, or grey shirt. We could even throw them on those zipper-less hooded sweaters. I forget what they're called. Maybe even those little can sleeves, coozies? Koosies? Koozy? pfft. There's a ton of possibilities when it comes to that.

SPEAKING OF! I should forewarn not everything on Spreadshirt is available for designs. I think this is stupid, and I hate it. So certain hats, clothes, and accessories will tell you that you can't put a design on it. However a lot of the time it's because of file dimensions, file type, and a few other things. The only one I've come to figure out well enough are the shirts. So we can just as easily do that. I've been reading into the details of restrictions and such, and hopefully soon we'll be able to put PxR on Hats, Phone cases, and other things that have hindered me, personally. xD

BUT! I'm jumping the gun. Let's first get an account set up if we're going to be serious about this. I have my own spreadshirt, but I don't want to put PxR stuff on it, because then the money would go to me, and not PxR. As it stands I'm terrible with financial upkeep so I'd rather HKim do it, and then allow me, and/or the team that is willing to help with this, the Log-in info for the account, then I can take it from there as far as uploads, design placement, and pricing.

As far as pricing, like I said, it'll start out low, because of a couple reasons. 1. Americans are cheap. If you're paying more than 20 dollars for a T-shirt, you're either rich, or insane. 2. We aren't a big product, we aren't famous. To come out of the fences with high dollar merchandise would likely hurt us more than help us. So the PxR profit margin will be low at first. But the way I see it, if you make a 5 dollar profit off of a shirt that you didn't pay any money to sell, that's 5 dollars you didn't have before. Spreadshirt makes it easy, despite it's several complications. xD


Link me to the site and let me know if there are any special instructions I need to do.

[XaiakuX]

Done and done.

Lunar Latias
You should sign up for spreadshirt. Honestly, you'd make bank putting your designs on t-shirts. I would highly recommend it, the only problem is, I'm not sure if spreadshirt works for those in Australia. I know it ships to Australia, but I'm not sure about running a shop. I would look into it, and if so, do it. You'd definitely make some decent money at.

[Chibi Altaria]

Done and done.

Lunar Latias
You should sign up for spreadshirt. Honestly, you'd make bank putting your designs on t-shirts. I would highly recommend it, the only problem is, I'm not sure if spreadshirt works for those in Australia. I know it ships to Australia, but I'm not sure about running a shop. I would look into it, and if so, do it. You'd definitely make some decent money at.

Okies, I'll look into it. xD But for something like this, wouldn't I be better off going with an Australia site? Unless I have more than one. Actually, now I'm assuming the American demographic would be larger..

[XaiakuX]

Okies, I'll look into it. xD But for something like this, wouldn't I be better off going with an Australia site? Unless I have more than one. Actually, now I'm assuming the American demographic would be larger..

That, and Americans tend to focus on buying things they want, as opposed to what they need. So they would buy a cool graphic Tee, as opposed to new silverware, or replacing that old lamp that hasn't worked since 2004. Stuff like that. Like me, for instance, My house needs a microwave. Well, I decided that my tax return would be better spent on a new PS4. Though, in my defense, the circumstances of my situation made my decision acceptable. If you're curious about that, read my "Very Merry X-Kun Blog (http://www.pokemoncrossroads.com/forum/entry.php?662-A-Very-Merry-X-Kun-Blog)". I'm just saying that 350 dollars could have bought me a really nice microwave.

Back on topic, I'm basically saying that most Americans are easily seduced by nice things. That may go for people as a whole, but I've never been to another country aside from Canada. However, given your talents, I'm pretty sure it'd take an iron will not to buy one of your shirts.

Anyways, I'm waiting to hear back from Harry. When he gets back to me, we'll be able to start uploading designs, advertising forum wide, website posts, and everything crazy like that. Then we can hopefully get this thing kicked off the way I envisioned it. HOPEFULLY, I can end up contributing to this forum in a major and positive way. Because that's all this is really about for me, anyways. Helping this forum and community grow.