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    I'm making a double post because stuff needs to be seen, and I'm posting this earlier than I anticipated. A lot happens when I'm rather absent. LONG POST IS LONG.

    First off, I'm getting complaints about the rapidness of Team Aqua's posting. People are unable to keep up and they feel incredibly stressed about posting. This, is the biggest 'I did not want this to happen' situation for the WAR RP. It also is against one of the RP Rules:

    Quote Originally Posted by Felly View Post
    5. This also includes giving people enough time to reply to things. Rapid fire posting after everyone just to get ahead of another player is incredibly frowned upon and not fair to others. At least wait a reasonable amount of time for another player to post so that everyone can have a fair and fun environment to play in.
    Since this is Team RP I'm treating you guys as a unit or single posting entity, the succession of posts from @Neo Emolga, @Lord Celebi and @The Nonexistent Tazz from post 85-92 [and onward in case someone else posts while I'm writing this], is going against this rule, considering you're attacking something against another player and have given them little to no time to respond. That's not cool guys. Slow down your posting rate and give people a chance to reply. These RP boards are not as active as PE2K's. People are trying to post but can't due to constant changes having to be made because people are posting too quickly.

    Rapid posting isn't making it fun for other people and I've had complaints about it. This needs to be fun for everyone [I am addressing this paragraph to everyone in this RP], and right now people are feeling like dropping out. I did NOT want this situation to happen at all and I an treating it very seriously. If too many people drop out then I will have to change how points will be awarded. Role Play is meant to be a fun environment and I intend to keep it that way.

    With that bit out of the way now I'm going to get more in depth with other RP stuff.

    WAR Week 2: Posts 70-90

    Now this week it's really hard for me to award points because I see issues happening. I will address those in general afterwards.

    Neo Emolga: Three points
    The Mega Krookodile part was fun to read and the Mega Skuntank part just seemed evil. Janine was fun to read again and much more interesting to read rather than before. The battle seemed believable and people got squished... lots and lots of squishing. Also evil magic thingy. Hoping for some serious Shadowman stuff to go down. As in everything going to hell, as you might not know the game I'm referencing.

    XaiakuX: Two points
    You get second place as it was a bit of a combined team effort and I saw no problem with what you posted. Post more, I want to see more crazy head stuff happening.

    The Nonexitsent Tazz: One Point
    The Deoxys bit was nice to read, good use of tension there and it felt pretty realistic in context. An interesting way of getting a Deoxys.

    Now this is the part of the post we get to called "Sabi had a hard time giving points because of these reasons" or something because I'm tired and want to get this done before I forget in a few hours. ><

    This is aside from what I mentioned earlier: Now what I don't see logical, or even realistic is that you have some ships just sailing in around Johto within firing range of one of the largest cities in Johto... and Johto, who is at war with Kanto, doesn't do anything about it? Nothing? Not even checking out why there are ships that aren't theirs [That would have at least been on the news somewhere, damn ships got stolen people and someone is nosy enough to try and get that out or someone somewhere has to talk about it. You said Hoenn was a super power and you don't just steal a large battleship from said superpower and not have someone go point it out.] just floating into their water space? It's perfectly clear that Johto and Kanto are butting heads at least, but no response at all? I don't see how that's really all that possible. I didn't see any explanation of how those ships got passed either. I don't see how getting ships into warring territory undetected like that is really all that possible. Especially since it has been mentioned there is some military presence around. Even more so considering this is a World War. I also saw nor read any mention of Johto and Hoenn being all cool so... Someone would of had to have seen something. If you can't steal a huge ship without someone seeing you, you definitely can't sail three of them going undetected. These aren't submarines. Even if they were submarines I'd expect more resistance. Something has to change there. Everything that happens has an affect on something.

    Also on another note I've been getting some concerns of bias in regards to power. Now I haven't been around much at all in he last week, but I'm going to point some things out. First, Deoxys, seems that was being worked towards from the beginning. That's okay with me since it still seems to be a work in progress. The Ancient Burst Heart clearly has the devil in it. Though, honestly considering how much it was made clear to get an ABH, I felt more effort could have been put into getting it. Something has gotta give here. Team Aqua has a lot of power and the ABH I feel could have had more effort putting into getting it, or at least getting it to work. A lot happened really quickly and it just doesn't feel that right to leave it without saying anything. Now I know it has been a team effort but still, that's a lot.

    It's not entirely interesting to read one person just take over stuff with power they accumulated in a quick amount of time. This is only week two and I didn't expect this to happen until week three at the earliest. That is factoring preparation weeks as well. That's my jist of the scenario. Changes gotta happen, so Posts 85-92 are up in the air for some changes.

    I want to see something interesting happen in this RP. This goes out to everyone.

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    @Saraibre Ryu, by your latest post, should those playing from Goldenrod bother posting yet, or should we wait for official confirmation/rejection of the unreasonable razing of an entire city?
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    Realistically speaking since no one in Goldenrod has moved in a bit, I don't mind people doing catch up posts. It would have taken awhile for those ships to get close to Johto in my judgement. There needs to be some resistance into getting through international waters of a warring country in my personal opinion.

    So depending on what you're planning on doing [you can PM me the post] I'd say it's okay since as I said before, no one over there has really moved much at all.
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    @Saraibre Ryu, just to be clear, the changes will not alter the fact that Goldenrod has basically been 9/11'd?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Velocity View Post
    @Saraibre Ryu, just to be clear, the changes will not alter the fact that Goldenrod has basically been 9/11'd?
    As of right now, Goldenrod has not been 9-11'd. Changes need to happen as the posts are under a pending status.

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    Sabi, I have some disagreements with you and I will take them to PM in a about thirty minutes.
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    First off, thank you, Sabi for the points. And yes, Shadowman is one of the creepiest but also one of the best games I've played. And holy frick, Legion is NOT an easy boss.

    Anyway, moving onto other matters.

    I would prefer to find some method to keep those posts as they are, because truth be told, Team Aqua members have been heavily planning, coordinating, and executing these operations in a secret and remote location, and this attack was definitely no exception. Since the very beginning, Rust, myself, and the rest of Team Aqua have been extremely determined to bring in our A game and come in swinging. Spinning the clocks back makes it difficult to try and find a way to pick things back up and get back on track again. We figuring it was time to bring in an intense PVP battle and get the spirit of this WAR really into full action.

    Now, if we keep things the way they are...

    ...there are plenty of ways Team Awesome can use and leverage this as an opportunity, whether it's by collecting support and making alliances with powerful, sympathizing NPC factions for reprisal and/or moving to a remote location and strategizing with acquiring combative assets and/or "mystical" relics that might help them get an edge in the next battle. Team Aqua has spent the entire RP doing this. Respectfully speaking, Team Awesome should have been doing it too, but it's not too late, obviously. This is a WAR RP after all, so it only makes sense to be always ready for combat and battles. Needless to say, we wanted to make absolute sure we were ready.

    There is also another solution without turning the clocks back...

    I would like to make a proposition that I'd rather have Team Awesome organize a reprisal in response to the attack with "consolation" assets of their own. I honestly wouldn't even mind that much if Tazz as Mega Deoxys and our Trinity Armada were suddenly faced with having to fight Team Awesome combat helicopters and bombers that Team Awesome could have yeah, respectfully pulled out of nowhere, but I'd rather have that kind of face-off as opposed to just hitting the rewind button and then be totally stumped about where to pick up from. Because doing that would feel like hey, we can't actually put any of this stuff to use anymore if we're going to be asked to rewind each time we try to use it.

    Yes, respectfully, Team Aqua has a lot of power. We spent a huge amount of the entire RP working our tails off for it. We knew there would be battles like this ahead, Team Awesome commands a lot of the best RPers that have ever been on here, and yes, we wanted to be prepared to the max. Team Awesome, sure, I realize they were going about things in a different way, but hey, I think we did make it clear from the start that Team Aqua = total mayhem and carnage. You can't really say no one wasn't warned.

    Anyway, I would like Sabi and Team Awesome to think over and consider these propositions before enforcing that posts 85 and onward be recalled. I think there's other ways to go about this that should be given a little thought first.

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    Neo, the only reason Aqua is at the point it is is because every single one of you has been posting at rates that are utterly ridiculous. We've barely had time to set up, thanks to your team. Your entire post implies that we haven't been trying and frankly is incredibly insulting. Your team got insane amounts of firepower at unfair speed, and I'm not trying to make excuses here. I know for a fact that everyone on Team Awesome has, contrary to your apparent opinion, been doing the best they can and making plans to create an interesting narrative overall, not just build firepower and destroy our opponents' efforts.

    I recognize that I am probably being rude, but the rapid fire posting has made this RP so unfair and stressful that I feel that I need to speak out. I have been annoyed with it since day one, and I am very much annoyed that not only is it damaging my team, you are also seeing fit to insult Team Awesome by implying that we aren't trying when the opposite is true. We've also "worked our tails off", but you can hardly expect anything good to come out when the entire thread is choked with Aqua posts coming in too fast to handle.
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    I don't mean to be rude, I really don't... But I'm going to be short here.

    I wouldn't have an issue with keeping the posts as they are, since, well, yes, we need conflict. Caleb not having internet really bungled us up, I've been trying to set up my own plot story and... it's hard. You guys are posting a lot, sometimes 2-3 times a day per person which is easily like, 6+ posts for Aqua a day. It's great you guys are having fun, but at the same time, it doesn't make me want to post since it gets buried almost immediately or the fact you guys are way ahead. I don't have the energy to post more than once a day if that, and I'm trying to compete in Showdown and creative writing too - which is where a majority of my creativity and motivation goes.

    The other issue is you posted so rapidly... we had no time to respond. I was literally sleeping for at least three of those posts, and I wasn't on the computer for the other ones (I keep to a set schedule of when I'm getting on or not. 6 PM EST is the earliest I get on, for future records. Why? I... I like my schedules... >.>'''' ) This attack would have been perfectly fine - aside from the whole "Johto not defending itself issue", those parked Navy ships are probably primed and ready to attack since it is a world war - if we had simply been given time to respond.

    "Coordinated from the beginning" is no excuse for completely pushing other team's chances of responding to the side. Two of your posts are three minutes apart. Three minutes. Think about that for a second. Most of them are no more than a few hours apart. I just...nyeeeegh @.@ I'm feeling completely overwhelmed, and I don't want to sound whiny because I DO love the story you are telling and you are great roleplayers, it's just... difficult to do anything with your rapid posting, guys. Even thought my character has been perhaps the only one, besides Bron, to not interact with anyone, it still does affect me.

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    @Velocity, may I ask what an acceptable posting rate is? The RP has run for 21 days so far. The three most active Aquas have the following posting rates:

    Neo: 24 Posts Overall = 1.14 posts per day*
    Tazz: 19 Posts Overall = .9 posts per day
    rust: 13 Posts Overall = .61 posts per day

    *Neo frontloaded most of his posts in previous week, however, so his current posting rate is actually probably lower than mine and Tazz's.

    Overall, we average 2.66 posts per day compared to our three RPers. Is what you're saying is that a proper posting rate is less than a post per day? I can tell you that Neo and I both work full-time jobs and have very little free time in general. One post per day with our schedules is all we can muster and to me seems like a very reasonable number.
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