Jeez, you kids talk a lot. xD

So Vorgu is a Thieves Guild Member, A secret champion of Nocturnal, or Nightingale, unless the others have been informed of Vorgu by Nocturnal. In which case, at some stage or another, Vorgu should probably meet up with the other two Nightingales. I want Vorgu placed in Riften. Assisting in the Blacksmith in his spare time, which he has occasionally. Given that his Smithing was taught by the best in Whiterun, he's an asset in that field.

I'm fine with all of the random things like dual dovahkiin. Not that my opinion of it matters at this stage, anyways. As for anyone in the Thieves Guild being associated with Vorgu, Yeah, you can know him, even have gone on some jobs with him. But I don't feel he's particularly close to anyone, bar Alea the Huntress. Who's an NPC, unless someone wants to play her. I would, but I'm terrible at RPing females. If I can picture him being associated with anyone played right now, it's both of Op's Nightingale characters, and MAYBE one of Sabi's who has ties to the Guild. Since becoming a Nightingale, Vorgu doesn't do a lot for the thieves guild, except for odd jobs for Brynolf. Which is how it will stay until Mercer dies.

I see you've really left out my character in the storyline of the Nightingales and Thieves guild. I sure would like to be involved with that chat. Especially with one of our own being one of two Dovahkiin. Though, I can understand the lack of my character's involvement in your plans, as I haven't been here, due to work, and crazy things. However I will be available for the RP itself, I assure you. So, however you see fit to include Vorgu, I will abide, or talk with you guys about how it'll all work. In my opinion, the point brought up about Eclipse's association with Karliah, since only Brynolf knows that Vorgu is a Nightingale, Vorgu could very well be a key in bringing the thieves guild to the side of the Nightingales. Vorgu is known to be quite silver-tongued, and clever in most situations that call for it. As for the Thane spot, dunno how that's working, but as the house is neighboring the blacksmith shop, it'd be a load of convenience if I could have it.

Plus, I have about 8 billion armor sets to account for. I need me some display mannequins. =P