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    Quote Originally Posted by Corrupt_Voidlich View Post
    With the theme scoring, I felt that they were all good and fascinating, that's why none of them had got low scores, but to get 9 and 10, I wanted it to be explained in depth a bit more, most just had a sentence or two about how they liked the animal rather than maybe rather than something that is a solid reason or an experience. Some I feel were better than others, but I did say the descriptions were not needed, so I didn't completely base it off that, I just decided to give maybe 3 or so marks for the description., even though I could totally understand you all and everything with your reason, I felt like there was a little more that people could have said. I don't know how to put it into words, it is hard to explain what I was looking for with the description for full marks, but hopefully you get at what I mean.
    First off, it's not fair to judge a piece of art based on a description that was originally not supposed to be a requirement. You're judging on someone's writing now and that's taking your judging area out of the context in question.

    Bottom line is you can't do that kind of thing for this section, especially if you gave no forewarning or notice that would be considered in the scoring (quite the contrary, you made it sound like it was a totally optional thing).

    Also, if you want, you could also put in why it is your favourite animal and I will add that to the form. If you don't want to, you don't need to, just remove it from the form. It is just there if you want to interest me with some reading and discussion on here. haha
    From what I've put in bold and red, it was wrong for you to judge based on the written description. That was a totally unfair thing to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corrupt_Voidlich View Post
    I also agree with Sarah's point. I am really hesitant to give full marks because even a really good piece of work can be improved, so I really do not want to give out full marks as it would give the perception that the artist has mastered that area which, although it may be very good, would be unfair to say because there is always room for improvement of some form, even if it is very minimal.
    Then in that same light, you're saying it's impossible to get those last two points.

    It's not sending a wrong message if you give a really excellent entry the A+ it deserves for a job well done. From my own personal experiences, I'm willing to give a perfect 100 score for something, but it's got to WOW me HARD. For Week #2, one such entry did that, and I felt it was WRONG to not give it the full and justified credit it deserved. It was unique, it followed the directions perfectly and flawlessly beyond even my expectations, and it executed them with craft, mastery, and precision in ways I've never seen done before in my life. If such an entry comes along and does that, give it full credit where it's due and make that perfect score possible. But if you make it impossible, then your scale and system is broken.

    Quote Originally Posted by Corrupt_Voidlich View Post
    I will say that giving you all 8 could be seen as a little negative from one standing point as it may make it look like I just gave you all that score or that it makes it seem less meaningful, but you all did extremely well with matching the theme, but as I said earlier, I do not like to give out full marks due to the above reasons and to access to top marks, I feel a little more emphasis on the meaning of the piece was needed. Hopefully this is ok. :)
    Sorry, but it's not ok. :(

    As I said before, please do not judge a drawn art entry based on a written description. I wouldn't judge a Creative Writing entry better if it included a banner, because that's not what the judging is focused on. If a person wanted to make it flashy because they were proud of their work, I'm okay with that, but I'm not considering it when determining their final score. Same thing with a person going into rich detail about why they picked a certain animal to draw. No way should that have any bearing on the scoring when it comes to focus context of the submission.

    Also, there's another matter I think that needs to be addressed here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Corrupt_Voidlich View Post
    6: All of this MUST be drawn. This means NO digital programs to enhance your work and the only digital work that may be done is if the work is done without any after effects and is worked on as if it was on a piece of paper. This is to make it fair for all the entrants.
    People have been doing this (I can spot the gradients and glows) and you have been overlooking them. Since you can't make something have a perfect gradient or glow on paper, you shouldn't be counting this (or possibly making it count against people) when it comes to final scores.

    Please consider these points when you judge Week #3 and #4, and yes, I would like to see Week #2's results reevaluated based on what was mentioned here. The points that Suicune's Fire brought up are important considerations and I feel she's right with the things she said.

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