pulse shooting in orlando, FL

[HKim]

I think the real issue here is terrorism more than anything.

The shooter clearly was influenced by ISIS and the organization's beliefs and goals. Whether or not he was formally associated remains to be seen, but a connection does exist.

It seems to me that the United States (and the rest of the world) needs to do a better job at locating potential threats and preventing them. There were warning signs prior to the shooting that were dismissed, but it might have been wise for the federal agencies to have continued to monitor the shooter for any unusual activity. Perhaps our current system isn't as up to the task as we hoped.

Of course, this would be less of a problem if we eliminated terrorist strongholds in the Middle East. These groups publicly advocate for these kinds of attacks and certainly influence people around the world. The attacks they carry out inspire others. For several years we've ignored these situations, not wanting to get involved, but I think that only exacerbates the issue. The world is much smaller now and what happens around the world will affect home. We should have invaded ISIS territory with a UN coalition and eliminated the problem. Yes there might be issues afterwards and a cost to be paid, but isn't that better than the loss of life we experience at home due to terrorism? Sometimes I think we forget why we have a military.

[Chakramaster]

I tried avoiding this thread for this reason. Somehow when things like this happen things tend to flow towards the medium where things get heated about "gun control, beliefs, race, or politics." So I try to avoid it. This case, I believe I need to add my two cents after what I've been reading here.

What happened was truly a tragedy. The way things are, personally, I don't believe any form of "gun control" here would've helped. It goes along with people thinking if you make a place a "gun free zone" people will just turn away saying "oh no guns allowed here, guess I can't shoot this place up" (sorry to put that bluntly, but that's what some people DO believe and it's crazy). There is a lot of ways people think today which makes it their thoughts vs. yours. Not caring what others think other than their own. It's one thing that's making everything blow up beyond the proportions they need to be.

There does need to be some kind of gun regulation, but people need to understand. Guns already out there will NOT just be taken back. People like Hilary Clinton seem to think they can just do that.

As to the matter when it comes to the Constitution, people really need to be careful. it's not some "old outdated piece of paper." It's literally something that defined America and helped build it from that time and today even. Sure, things may have changed over time, but it's gonna take more than just one person to make any said changes EVER to something as defining in the American history as the Constitution. "The right to bear arms" is something that every US citizen has the right to. Now, it seems every chance someone goes public world wide because of some shooting they plead "mental illness" or "self-defense." I might be speaking out of my mind here when I say I hear that way too much now. That's the only reason you would honestly need a gun. To protect yourself or others from harm from crazies that seem to take matters into their own hands if they don't like someone or a certain group of people. It's disgusting that someone can think such a way and kill just for the fun of it even. Such evil people DO exist in this world, yet some people would rather complain about the gun rather than the person or bring hate into it. Speaking of hate...

I think the real issue here is terrorism more than anything.

The shooter clearly was influenced by ISIS and the organization's beliefs and goals. Whether or not he was formally associated remains to be seen, but a connection does exist.

It seems to me that the United States (and the rest of the world) needs to do a better job at locating potential threats and preventing them. There were warning signs prior to the shooting that were dismissed, but it might have been wise for the federal agencies to have continued to monitor the shooter for any unusual activity. Perhaps our current system isn't as up to the task as we hoped.

Of course, this would be less of a problem if we eliminated terrorist strongholds in the Middle East. These groups publicly advocate for these kinds of attacks and certainly influence people around the world. The attacks they carry out inspire others. For several years we've ignored these situations, not wanting to get involved, but I think that only exacerbates the issue. The world is much smaller now and what happens around the world will affect home. We should have invaded ISIS territory with a UN coalition and eliminated the problem. Yes there might be issues afterwards and a cost to be paid, but isn't that better than the loss of life we experience at home due to terrorism? Sometimes I think we forget why we have a military.

That's pretty much what I believe after hearing about it over these past few days. Islamic Extremist Terrorist was exactly what I think the matter is. No matter what his "father" said about him or the incident. The guy had ties to ISIS and followed it's belief as they hate gays and think they should all die. Even if he wasn't a part of the group itself, he follows the same beliefs, which is just as bad as being a part of the group. It shows he most likely would be part of ISIS if given the chance.

It's honestly sad to see how little is being done about the situation on the terrorist threats around the world that it's actually scary to think about. How one vs. the world is slowly taking over day by day and we see more of this happening. People around the world getting hurt or losing their life because of terrorism or hate just because of ones beliefs.

it's true it would be a lesser problem, yet most parts of the world are all talk and no show. Heck, some people in this country won't even acknowledge the true threat of "Islamic Extremist Terrorist." It's sad to see that too because that's exactly what they are. Sure not all muslims are part of the issue. I think it was Neo that was saying it too. Just as not all Christians are evil or have evil intentions either. Even if there's a 0.000000001% person that has that evil, suddenly everyone in that group is looked at like they are the scum of the earth. Even if the threat is neutralized right now, yeah, there will be more threats to come from it later. We will just have to face it when the time comes. Thing is, if we as people of the world don't unite to take out a common enemy, things may yet get even worse as they already have started to show. From here on, it's still only going to get worse until the problem is resolved and actually taken seriously. I'm serious, if a war were to start as it is, people wouldn't know how to act. So many people would rather play the blame game and worry behind their computer screen or phones nowadays than take action if it came to their doorstep. That's where the brave people of our military are what we need to be thankful for. If not for them, we would all not be where we are today.