Actually I did started to go back and nuzlock with another copy. Still boring and not as fun as the others. Also easier than the first time now too. Well obviously it's not all about competitive battles. A lot of the fan base still doesn't know it exists. EV and IVs are hidden to many. I still didn't like ORAS as much either. I mean X and Y were still the best recent games I'd say. The trials just did not impress me in the slightest. They tried, but it didn't hit the mark.