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    Quote Originally Posted by Noblejanobii View Post
    By this standard you're calling Porygon edgy. Which, beyond actually having edges, it is not.
    Porygon's artificial creation isn't the start of a rejected sob-story. Having one edgy factor alone doesn't make a pokemon edgy, but compiling various edgy factors, both major and minor, multiplies the effect.
    Quote Originally Posted by Noblejanobii
    Um… subjective much? Type: Null doesn't do this hardly at all. You only ever interact with Type: Null through battle. Gladion certainly does this but don't fault the Pokémon for the qualities of the Trainer.
    The games make clear use of the "A pet is like its owner" trope with Type:Null and Gladion. They are portrayed to be very similar throughout the game, even if most of it is through gladion's description of his pokemon. Why else would someone like gladion bond so closely with it? Because their shared experiences give them a similar outlook on life.
    Quote Originally Posted by nobeljanobii
    While Type: Null's backstory is tragic, it's redeeming quality is that it's appearance is really cool and it's a kick *** in battle. You can't even make an argument against Gladion on this either since he acts as a hero in rebelling against his mother to save his sister. In addition, this kind of makes Mimikyu edgy.
    I'll... just agree to disagree with you on the appearance. You may see a chimera, but I see a failed attempt to make an artificial arceus using frankenstein methods. And from my other points being "Kick ***" in battle isn't a redeeming trait, it's just another reason for you to hate Aether foundation for rejecting it. (which is Type:null's main purpose in the game) And if this doesn't apply to Gladion, why does his outlook on life look like This? He may be heroic when it counts, but that doesn't stop him from being an edgy teenager the rest of the time.
    Quote Originally Posted by nobeljanobii
    Technically Type: Null has no OP abilities, Silvally does but not Type: Null. Other than having some pretty good stats and moves there's not much unique about it beyond its appearance. I will give you this though since this is partially true but this also increases the edginess of other pokemon too.
    Err, to be honest I sort of lumped Type:null and Silvally together, as Type:null's original design was to have silvally's powers without evolving. The lore on Type:null claims the helmet's purpose is to hold back the rampant power inside of Type:null, which would explode out of control without it. (a common trope for edgy characters)
    Quote Originally Posted by noblejanobii
    I'll give you this one based on what limited interactions we as the player have had with Type: Null and Gladion. The edginess meter is slowly filling for Mimikyu.
    I can't really comment on Mimikyu since I don't know its story or lore.
    Quote Originally Posted by noblejanobii
    Type: Null doesn't "present itself" as you say. If this were a PMD game I'd give it to you but like I said we only ever see this Pokémon in battle so it can't really present itself. Secondly, Type: Null can't exactly help the whole alienation thing if it was created in a lab on an island and never allowed to interact with the outside world. So I feel like that can't be really held against it. And you know who else is edgy by this standard? Munna and the Gigalith from GtI!
    I worded this one somewhat badly. You are right that Type:null's limited interaction keeps it from presenting itself like this, but I was referring more to how Type:Null was hyped up before the games' release as the "mewtwo" for arceus. (as in an attempted clone/recreation) A failed copy of a greater power is a common trope among edgy designs and characters.
    Quote Originally Posted by nobeljanobii
    Granted, Type: Null does have the highest BST of Pokémon able to evolve, given it doesn't have access to Silvally's abilities, it isn't actually that OP. And Silvally doesn't have a much highest BST so they're not that OP. Slaking has a higher BST than Silvally.
    To quote you from earlier: One of his redeeming qualities is that Type:null is "Kick ***" in battle. But to be fair this is one of those things that's only cringy if their strength is based off of cringy lore. (like being a failed copy of arceus) Being really strong alone doesn't make people cringy.
    Quote Originally Posted by nobeljanobii
    So Pichu, Togepi, Igglybuff, Riolu, Eevee, Cleffa, Chansey, and all other friendship evolutions as also edgy?
    This one is kind of a tangent, I will admit. I just interpreted it as "You're being saved by the amazing power of friendship!" *cue really cheesy speech* None of the other pokemon were being "saved" by friendship, but as this is kind of a tangent an arguement can be made that neither is Type:null
    Quote Originally Posted by noblejanobii
    No, Type: Null is based on a Chimera, as I already said. Also it does have a weakness, literally it's a normal type so it's weak to fighting. And Silvally is weak to whatever weaknesses the type it takes on has.
    Yes, I know Type:null does actually have a type. But does the fan-fiction writing fanbase care? No. The concept of a typless pokemon, especially a typless pokemon hyped up to be legendary-like, is by far one of the most cringiest and edgiest concepts relating to pokemon. What do you think the name "Type: Null" suggests? Even before Type:null was introduced, people jumped on the notion of arceus' hacked "enigma form" and the "enigma plate" that had no actual type. By adding a pokemon who's body shape gives no clear indication of type combined with a name that literally says the pokemon doesn't have a type, it's only opened up a window for people to do what they want with Type:null as a typeless pokemon, rather than what it actually is.
    Quote Originally Posted by noblejanobii
    so nidoqueen, all baby pokémon, and legendaries are edgy too? Man I never realized how edgy pichu is.
    Like the artificial birth, this is more of an add-on than a major edgy factor. Having this alone doesn't make anyone edgy.


    You know what? Screw it. It doesn't matter. You like Type:null and I don't. The universe isn't going to end because of it. Arguing over it is only going to make me angry and edgy myself over something completely pointless. Read it if you want, but I don't care anymore. also if you can't tell I'm tired and grumpy. Sorry about that.
    Last edited by Morzone; 04-25-2017 at 04:21 AM.

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