The Last Poster Wins! [v22]

[Chakramaster]

Oh OH I know the answer to that! Or at least have a theory on it. So Gardevoir in RB is essentially in a sort of limbo status. Not quite dead not quite alive. But you'll notice she always refers to whoever brought you over as "we" and it's never really revealed who this "we" is. However, in the post-Groundon events when Gardevoir finally reveals herself, she calls herself an "agent of the spirits". This is also brought up again in the Murky Cave sidequest when you actually meet these spirits, or at least one of them, the "judge of darkness". I have two theories on who these "spirits" are. Originally, my thought process was they were beings that existed beyond the realms of both the human and pokémon worlds. However, with the release of SuMo and USUM, I have come to believe that it's actually possible they are Ultra Beasts, or at least pokémon capable of using ultra wormholes. The "judge of darkness"? It could be Lunala! Think about it, Murky Cave is filled with ghost pokémon and Lunala is one of the only ghost type legendaries so far, so it would make sense. Or it could be Necrozma for USUM spoiler-y reasons.

As interesting as the theory sounds. It's pretty tough to swallow when knowing to compare RB RT to SM and USUM. Mainly cause of gen difference. How Rescue Team was made before gen 4 even came out. There were hints to very few gen 4 in the game at the time (like Lucario). But they had to have had Arceus planned at least. Wouldn't put it past them to leave it an open ended question that could be easily answered with theories like that though. That way things are explained better than "we" or "I brought you here" (and somehow they magically changed) or even better "something caused you to transform into a Pokémon." It's a bit odd and leaves questions. It'd be nice to actually have clear answers one day like we had in GTI and PSMD.

[Noblejanobii]

As interesting as the theory sounds. It's pretty tough to swallow when knowing to compare RB RT to SM and USUM. Mainly cause of gen difference. How Rescue Team was made before gen 4 even came out. There were hints to very few gen 4 in the game at the time (like Lucario). But they had to have had Arceus planned at least. Wouldn't put it past them to leave it an open ended question that could be easily answered with theories like that though. That way things are explained better than "we" or "I brought you here" (and somehow they magically changed) or even better "something caused you to transform into a Pokémon." It's a bit odd and leaves questions. It'd be nice to actually have clear answers one day like we had in GTI and PSMD.

Well here's the interesting thing that I noticed while playing through the mystery dungeon games again. We always get amnesia when traveling through those portals. Think about it for a moment. Both in PSMD and in TDS, we're attacked either while traveling through the portals or right as we exit. What other form of portal system that can send you across time and space is also capable of wiping your memories, but as of the release of USUM has been confirmed to not always do so? Ultra Wormholes. This also somewhat contributes to the Ultra Beasts theory for RB, as they say they wipe your memory as a test, but how would they go about doing this? Uxie in TDS already states their memory wiping capabilities don't extend that far and no ultra beasts that we know of are capable of such abilities. Perhaps they just dropped you through a wormhole.

I get that it's not the most sound theory but I don't want to discount Game Freak. It's very possible they did think that far ahead, or retconned it. After all, it's obvious they've been planning USUM since the development of XY, so why not have it go further back?

[Morzone]

Well here's the interesting thing that I noticed while playing through the mystery dungeon games again. We always get amnesia when traveling through those portals. Think about it for a moment. Both in PSMD and in TDS, we're attacked either while traveling through the portals or right as we exit. What other form of portal system that can send you across time and space is also capable of wiping your memories, but as of the release of USUM has been confirmed to not always do so? Ultra Wormholes. This also somewhat contributes to the Ultra Beasts theory for RB, as they say they wipe your memory as a test, but how would they go about doing this? Uxie in TDS already states their memory wiping capabilities don't extend that far and no ultra beasts that we know of are capable of such abilities. Perhaps they just dropped you through a wormhole.

I get that it's not the most sound theory but I don't want to discount Game Freak. It's very possible they did think that far ahead, or retconned it. After all, it's obvious they've been planning USUM since the development of XY, so why not have it go further back?

Shoot, now I want an Ultra-beast based PMD game. Let's travel through those wormholes as a pokemon yeah?

Portals seem a very dangerous mode of travel. I wonder what kind of risks you get by going through hoopa's portal rings.

[Noblejanobii]

Shoot, now I want an Ultra-beast based PMD game. Let's travel through those wormholes as a pokemon yeah?

Portals seem a very dangerous mode of travel. I wonder what kind of risks you get by going through hoopa's portal rings.

Yeah they played with Hoopa's rings in PSMD but not extensively. it would be interesting to see the results of that.