The Last Poster Wins! [v23]

**~~ShadowBolt25~~** · 10-15-2019, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by Chakramaster

Oh it was confirmed before the movie even came out. About a week or two after the trailer released they announced it.

It really is nice to see just how popular Pokémon is pulled back up.

do you think the Pokémon Anime will ever be as good again as it was in Pokémon XYZ ?

**Chakramaster** · 10-15-2019, 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by ShadowBolt25

do you think the Pokémon Anime will ever be as good again as it was in Pokémon XYZ ?

Well it at least looks like the art style is better again. Not as bad as it was with Sun and Moon series. Sorry to those gat actually liked it, but I think it was the worst in recent gens/seasons still. So there's a chance.

**Noblejanobii** · 10-14-2019, 11:07 PM

Yeah I'm glad to see there's so much pokemon content out now

**Noblejanobii** · 10-15-2019, 01:31 AM

personally i really like the SuMo style. I wasn't big on it at first but the expressiveness of it really sold me on it. I hope they keep that expressiveness in the new series since it made the show feel more fun.

**Neo Emolga** · 10-15-2019, 02:04 AM

I tried watching a few episodes of the SuMo style Pokemon anime (the Alolan Raichu pancake race and that one where Mudbrey appears on a farm or something) and the whole time, it felt like I was watching a totally different anime.

Ash doesn't look the same, certainly doesn't sound the same, none of the characters are familiar, it just felt disconnected from it's roots to the point where I was wondering what was left to hold this series together. What's really left to this story that needs to be told? Yeah, I read in a news blip that Ash finally wins the league, and that's great, but I'm not feeling like I have to go back in there to see how it all happened.

I can't say it was BAD (although the ending of the Alolan Raichu pancake race episode was lame and made it feel like I wasted my time watching), but like I said, totally seemed different. None of the characters seemed recognizable save for Pikachu, although even he still feels a bit disconnected from how he used to be in previous seasons.

I dunno what to say about it. I wasn't happy but I didn't hate what I saw. I just can't say what I saw drove me to feel "holy crap, I've got to go back to watch everything I've missed because this is great and I need to get caught up to speed like everyone else!" It wasn't like Game of Thrones where falling behind was a bad spot to be in and you were missing out on all the buzz that everyone else was talking about, so you drove yourself to get caught up and connect all the sub-plots together.

But if you enjoyed it, that's cool and I'm glad you did. But it's still just one of those things I drifted out of and never got back into.

**Noblejanobii** · 10-15-2019, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by Neo Emolga

I tried watching a few episodes of the SuMo style Pokemon anime (the Alolan Raichu pancake race and that one where Mudbrey appears on a farm or something) and the whole time, it felt like I was watching a totally different anime.

Ash doesn't look the same, certainly doesn't sound the same, none of the characters are familiar, it just felt disconnected from it's roots to the point where I was wondering what was left to hold this series together. What's really left to this story that needs to be told? Yeah, I read in a news blip that Ash finally wins the league, and that's great, but I'm not feeling like I have to go back in there to see how it all happened.

I can't say it was BAD (although the ending of the Alolan Raichu pancake race episode was lame and made it feel like I wasted my time watching), but like I said, totally seemed different. None of the characters seemed recognizable save for Pikachu, although even he still feels a bit disconnected from how he used to be in previous seasons.

I dunno what to say about it. I wasn't happy but I didn't hate what I saw. I just can't say what I saw drove me to feel "holy crap, I've got to go back to watch everything I've missed because this is great and I need to get caught up to speed like everyone else!" It wasn't like Game of Thrones where falling behind was a bad spot to be in and you were missing out on all the buzz that everyone else was talking about, so you drove yourself to get caught up and connect all the sub-plots together.

But if you enjoyed it, that's cool and I'm glad you did. But it's still just one of those things I drifted out of and never got back into.

In regards to him not sounding the same, when was the last time you watched the anime? They changed VAs back in the Hoenn arc iirc so if that was when you dropped off then that's why. Otherwise it's all just in your head since it's the same VA.

Either way I'm disappointed to hear you felt that way, but unfortunately for me, that's the general consensus across the internet communities I'm in. Sometimes it feels like I'm the only person who still likes the show no matter what changes come its way. Pokecommunity is thus far the only place I've been that still has a decent chunk of anime fans. It's great to be able to talk with them about each episode since it really does feel like the only place where people still like it.

The only other time I've felt like people have come together to celebrate the anime was when he finally won the Alolan League. But even then I saw a bunch of haters saying this is his weakest team yet, he doesn't deserve it, etc. which sorta made it less fun for me.

**Scytherwolf** · 10-15-2019, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by Noblejanobii

In regards to him not sounding the same, when was the last time you watched the anime? They changed VAs back in the Hoenn arc iirc so if that was when you dropped off then that's why. Otherwise it's all just in your head since it's the same VA.

Either way I'm disappointed to hear you felt that way, but unfortunately for me, that's the general consensus across the internet communities I'm in. Sometimes it feels like I'm the only person who still likes the show no matter what changes come its way. Pokecommunity is thus far the only place I've been that still has a decent chunk of anime fans. It's great to be able to talk with them about each episode since it really does feel like the only place where people still like it.

The only other time I've felt like people have come together to celebrate the anime was when he finally won the Alolan League. But even then I saw a bunch of haters saying this is his weakest team yet, he doesn't deserve it, etc. which sorta made it less fun for me.

We didn't get super far into the series, but when my sister last visited, we started watching the Sun and Moon anime and had a lot of fun. I do want to see more of it!

**Neo Emolga** · 10-15-2019, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by Noblejanobii

In regards to him not sounding the same, when was the last time you watched the anime? They changed VAs back in the Hoenn arc iirc so if that was when you dropped off then that's why. Otherwise it's all just in your head since it's the same VA.

Either way I'm disappointed to hear you felt that way, but unfortunately for me, that's the general consensus across the internet communities I'm in. Sometimes it feels like I'm the only person who still likes the show no matter what changes come its way. Pokecommunity is thus far the only place I've been that still has a decent chunk of anime fans. It's great to be able to talk with them about each episode since it really does feel like the only place where people still like it.

The only other time I've felt like people have come together to celebrate the anime was when he finally won the Alolan League. But even then I saw a bunch of haters saying this is his weakest team yet, he doesn't deserve it, etc. which sorta made it less fun for me.

I'll admit, it's been a while. Maybe I would have gotten used to it, but I just never really did. It was like having the voice of a friend or teacher suddenly change overnight. Nothing about it seemed right. And I just feel like that change came at the worst possible time, right when there was a long lull in the action with not much going on. Made it too easy to just move onto something else after feeling it was never going to be the same.

It's not to say the anime doesn't have some really good moments. Every once in a blue moon, I watch it for long shot reasons, such as a certain Pokémon appearing. I will easily confess, the Emolga the Irresistible episode was AMAZINGLY hilarious and was a major reason for me making Emolga my favorite Pokémon. But maybe that's part of the reason. I really watch it for the Pokémon, not so much the human characters. Maybe I wish the scenario was different, such as the setting being more like PMD with those same kinds of highly suspenseful storylines and emotional use of characters. Save for Pikachu, most Pokémon only appear for a short while and either their feature episode is up or they come out of the Poké ball only once in a while before their trainer exits the anime for good. You never really find out what happens to them all. And some of them seem to be gone long before they really had their moment of impact. In the PMD games, some of those Pokémon you NEVER forget the huge and influential impact they have on you and the storyline.

It's great that you enjoy it and don't let the haters get in your way. Everyone of us enjoys Pokémon, but in different ways, and that's not a wrong thing.

**~~ShadowBolt25~~** · 10-15-2019, 02:52 AM

although I liked Pokémon XYZ better i do like the Z Moves Gigavolt Havok & 10,000,000 Volt Thunderbolt if Ash had access to them against Alain in Pokémon XYZ Ash would've defeated Charazard X easy with Pikachu