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    As a straight ally with a bunch of LGBT friends, I am elated that they can love who they want to love.

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    Is anyone even listening to me?

    CHURCHES ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY!! They're not being prejudice or anything, it is literally their right to reject people because they are private property. It's the same reason that they can say no solicitation, no loitering, and no panhandling, because it's private property!
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    Ah okay. Gotcha. Still, they have every right to reject whomever they want.
    That's kinda what I was saying, too. lol.

    Don't you "yeesh" me! xD Wait, seriously?! Like Sarah said, I can't believe they can refuse an interracial couple! Woah. People are so freaking dumb. HOW is equality ever going to happen if there's still segregation happening? Again, it's not about "shoving" a belief down someone's throat. Like I said, no gay couple would want to go near people who still have ridiculous prejudice against them. Heck, I don't.
    The thing was, I felt like you were calling me out. The point I was trying to get across wasn't taken and instead the smaller parts of my statement were focused on...things that contributed to my point, yes, but they were irrelevant and just picking those little things out make me feel like you guys are picking at split ends and not understanding the point I was trying to get across.

    Plus it felt unfair because you KNOW for a fact that I support equal marriage / equal love. It felt like you were calling me out for saying something against gay marriage. What I was saying was that it always goes both ways

    And no one here is shoving anyone's beliefs down anyone's throats; sorry if it sounded like that was what I was getting at. My point was, again, that yes; I do feel like churches should (and they do) have the right to refuse someone and shouldn't be obliged to accept everyone. That's the point of the separation of church and state: let the churches do what they want (so long as it doesn't infringe on our human rights, such as, you know, the right to basically be alive), and let the law do what they have to do.

    Is anyone even listening to me?

    CHURCHES ARE PRIVATE PROPERTY!! They're not being prejudice or anything, it is literally their right to reject people because they are private property. It's the same reason that they can say no solicitation, no loitering, and no panhandling, because it's private property!
    That's also the point I've been trying to further after Janobii said something about it. Don't worry: to be honest I feel like no one is actually listening to the POINT I'm trying to get across, either....

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    The thing was, I felt like you were calling me out. The point I was trying to get across wasn't taken and instead the smaller parts of my statement were focused on...things that contributed to my point, yes, but they were irrelevant and just picking those little things out make me feel like you guys are picking at split ends and not understanding the point I was trying to get across.

    Plus it felt unfair because you KNOW for a fact that I support equal marriage / equal love. It felt like you were calling me out for saying something against gay marriage. What I was saying was that it always goes both ways

    And no one here is shoving anyone's beliefs down anyone's throats; sorry if it sounded like that was what I was getting at. My point was, again, that yes; I do feel like churches should (and they do) have the right to refuse someone and shouldn't be obliged to accept everyone. That's the point of the separation of church and state: let the churches do what they want (so long as it doesn't infringe on our human rights, such as, you know, the right to basically be alive), and let the law do what they have to do.
    To be honest the way you worded it was quite confusing. xD It did sound like you were saying something else, which is why I got confused.

    I understand what you're saying, but I still think that no-one who knows they won't be accepted there will even try to go, so I don't know how that's going to affect anyone. They can continue to do what they want. It'll be no different to before. Lol. I meant the same as Sarah.

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    Haha I got you, Noble. But just because it's private property doesn't mean it's not prejudice to turn someone away based on race, sexuality or which Pokemon generation they think is the best. :)

    I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to do that. I'm just saying it's not very nice. xD
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    Yeah I'm not saying it's right either but if it's something like the Catholic Church where we literally are against everything, I think it's okay.
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    Yeah, my wording can be a little wishy-washy sometimes. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused. x] I think I was just getting...a bit frustrated is all. :]

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    A church is allowed to deny gay marriage on their property. However, they also have to take the political baggage and negative impacts that is associated with denying gay marriage on their property. That's basically it.
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    I'm happy for this change. I feel same-sex couples were shut out for far too long, and now they can express their love and get benefits through marriage. I wish everyone was happy about this, but sadly religion plays perhaps too large role in people's lives. I won't shun them for that, but it does disappoint me that people could be upset about this.
    not that serious

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