pulse shooting in orlando, FL

[Noblejanobii]

And y'all seem to have been ignoring what I will be stating for the third time, I'm okay with gun regulation. Quit acting like I'm not because I have said that now three times. I just don't want that regulation to get out of hand. Probably the best example for this I can give is that during a simulation of the statehouse that the state does every year, this year the sheer amount of bills on the Confederate flag and gun laws were astounding, but not unexpected given that one of the people who died in the Charleston shooting was a member of the state congress. We ended up voting most of the gun laws down because we felt they breached the second amendment in one way or another, but someone brought up a very good point the counter the common argument of "it'll prevent things like charleston from happening." He said that we shouldn't restrict people from getting access to guns, we need to make the process of obtaining one more difficult. As I stated before, it's relatively easy to obtain a gun since there's only one permit required (permit to carry a handgun) and as long as you meet the four qualifications you're free to buy as many as you would like. So nearly everyone in my state owns a gun, that's just something we deal with. Now look at the voting process. In my state, it's not difficult to get a voting license, but it can be depending on where you go to get one, especially with the new photo ID laws and stuff. It's becoming extremely difficult to get a voting license, so less and less people are going out to vote in my state. So, imagine for a second, if gun laws worked like that. Imagine if we made the process so hard that it would deter people from getting guns. Sure, there'd be riots all over the place in my state because almost everyone here owns a firearm, but still, it would decrease how many people own and use a gun, making it less accessible to people, like the Charleston shooter, to screw things up for the rest of us.

It's also worth noting that people have a tendency to seriously overestimate crime; the chance of someone actually breaking in to your house is extremely low, but repeated exposure in the media etc. makes people think it's more likely that it really is. I study Psychology and my uni specialises in Forensic Psychology so I know a fair bit about that effect. I can totally understand the fear though - I see it every day as my boyfriend refuses to go to bed without double locking our front door, despite the fact we're the top floor of a block of flats and know every resident.

It's also worth noting that in my school, not the school district, not the county, not the state, not the country, my school, hearing about break ins and rapes is not an uncommon thing at all. I'm not "seriously overestimating crime" when I hear from teachers, students, and parents about how so and so was raped the other week or so and so's house was broken into. Heck, we had at least one student die a year at my school due to break ins. This was not an uncommon thing and it was terrifying for everyone because you never knew if you were going to be the next one to bite the dust. So, no, this isn't due to repeated exposure to the media, this is due to the repeated witnessing of the effects of what break ins have done to these people.

[5TailedDemonLizard]

And y'all seem to have been ignoring what I will be stating for the third time, I'm okay with gun regulation. Quit acting like I'm not because I have said that now three times. I just don't want that regulation to get out of hand. Probably the best example for this I can give is that during a simulation of the statehouse that the state does every year, this year the sheer amount of bills on the Confederate flag and gun laws were astounding, but not unexpected given that one of the people who died in the Charleston shooting was a member of the state congress. We ended up voting most of the gun laws down because we felt they breached the second amendment in one way or another, but someone brought up a very good point the counter the common argument of "it'll prevent things like charleston from happening." He said that we shouldn't restrict people from getting access to guns, we need to make the process of obtaining one more difficult. As I stated before, it's relatively easy to obtain a gun since there's only one permit required (permit to carry a handgun) and as long as you meet the four qualifications you're free to buy as many as you would like. So nearly everyone in my state owns a gun, that's just something we deal with. Now look at the voting process. In my state, it's not difficult to get a voting license, but it can be depending on where you go to get one, especially with the new photo ID laws and stuff. It's becoming extremely difficult to get a voting license, so less and less people are going out to vote in my state. So, imagine for a second, if gun laws worked like that. Imagine if we made the process so hard that it would deter people from getting guns. Sure, there'd be riots all over the place in my state because almost everyone here owns a firearm, but still, it would decrease how many people own and use a gun, making it less accessible to people, like the Charleston shooter, to screw things up for the rest of us.



It's also worth noting that in my school, not the school district, not the county, not the state, not the country, my school, hearing about break ins and rapes is not an uncommon thing at all. I'm not "seriously overestimating crime" when I hear from teachers, students, and parents about how so and so was raped the other week or so and so's house was broken into. Heck, we had at least one student die a year at my school due to break ins. This was not an uncommon thing and it was terrifying for everyone because you never knew if you were going to be the next one to bite the dust. So, no, this isn't due to repeated exposure to the media, this is due to the repeated witnessing of the effects of what break ins have done to these people.

I originally made my statement about regulation because of your former post about wanting a gun but having it be outlawed in some sort of alternate universe. I wasn't trying to ignore what you said, but take context from the post as I saw it. I apologize if that's what it looked like.

I want getting a gun to be difficult for people l, like the example you gave about the voting licence.

My biggest problem right now is the backlash that any talk of gun regulation gets almost immediately. Just a few hours ago I was called uneducated and weak when I spoke up about the lack of regulations on firearms.

I don't want to fear for my life because of my sexuality, my gender, etc. because a shooter who was told "no" by a woman decided to get revenge and had easy access to a gun.

[Noblejanobii]

I originally made my statement about regulation because of your former post about wanting a gun but having it be outlawed in some sort of alternate universe. I wasn't trying to ignore what you said, but take context from the post as I saw it. I apologize if that's what it looked like.

I want getting a gun to be difficult for people l, like the example you gave about the voting licence.

My biggest problem right now is the backlash that any talk of gun regulation gets almost immediately. Just a few hours ago I was called uneducated and weak when I spoke up about the lack of regulations on firearms.

I don't want to fear for my life because of my sexuality, my gender, etc. because a shooter who was told "no" by a woman decided to get revenge and had easy access to a gun.

No no, I understand and I apologize if I seem hostile. I don't mean to sound that way, I'm just trying to show you what the other side thinks.

I don't want you to feel unsafe and I know you do because of this recent shooting. Very similarly, any time gun regulation is brought up where I live, it gets large amounts of backlash. I don't know how to solve that given how corrupt the current political system is in the USA. All I can say is, we need to find compromise, and seeing as we both agree the regulations that make it more difficult to obtain a gun would be very helpful.