WAR SEASON II: Discussion

[Suicune's Fire]

I'm not posting this because I was on a team with only 9 people. I'd still be posting all of this even if my team had won the WAR or if I was on a larger team. I'm posting this because I see issues with the current system of WAR and I feel they should be brought to light so that they can be fixed. I'm trying to be reasonable and calm here, and I'm not trying to start any drama. I'm sorry if it comes off that way, but it's not what I want to do. Even if there's not another WAR for whatever reason, these suggestions can be used in whatever similar large scale event you guys come up with. I'm merely making suggestions and responding to the comments on those suggestions because I feel there's some misunderstanding.

I will, however, apologize for the comments about the 40.5 points thing. While I do believe it's disgusting, it was probably a bit uncalled for, so I do apologize for that. I do also believe it is an issue though, but it's with the current system, not with any of the WAR participants or judges.

My team, which claimed second place, only had 8 members who scored at all. One was a judge. One scored .5 points. It DOES matter how large the teams are. More members on the team = more potential for people to participate. It's basic logic.

I'm offended that you would call that disgusting. I worked freaking hard for my 31.5 points. There was no bias with judging. How many people entered drawn art in week four? Four people. Three were on my team, and one was me. How many people entered ASB in week four? Four people. Three were on my team and one was me. Who entered sprite art? Four. Two were on my team, and one was me. Who entered CW? Three. One was me. I'm sorry, but your points seem rather invalid given that I worked for those points and you're saying that it's disgusting? Even indirectly, that's how I'm taking it. I know you worked hard too, and many others in non-placing teams (and those on placing teams), but it seems like you're complaining about the basics of teambuilding: getting people on the team, and getting people to compete. I didn't know Vultan, but he reached out to me, and ultimately that's why I joined his team. If you had reached out to me, I'd have joined yours. Sometimes it's about being proactive. You don't have to be friends with everyone--all it takes is some effort to ask people. You say the size of your team doesn't matter. It does matter, but what matters more is actually reaching out to people.

Suggesting that judges shouldn't be allowed to award more than one person on a team first, second or third sounds like it would not work at all. That would take away every fun, competitive aspect within your team, and like it's been said, people would be discouraged. If I saw that one of my team members had entered an awesome piece of art, then I'd be like, "Well obviously that'll win a place on the podium, so there's no point in me even bothering because even if the others aren't as good as mine, mine won't even be considered." It does not make sense. Like Sarah said, if that was a rule, then you may as well say "only one entry per week, per team." It would be terrible. I wouldn't even want to enter under those circumstances.


I wouldn't like to be drafted, because I feel like that takes away from some of the fun. However, maybe picking a top three would work, idk. What annoys me is that the WAR leaders are thinking of scrapping the whole contest because we had issues this year. I think that doesn't solve the problem... I love WAR! I know a lot of people do too.

A team cap seems more reasonable than drafting, in my opinion.

My only concern for a two-week submission period for one week is that the whole event will drag on. I think that many people were content with a four week schedule. As much as I enjoyed it, it was a relief when it was over. xD I can't imagine it going for eight weeks, although if we did a week and a half, that might be better. With a longer judging period, and maybe in that time, no themes are given out so that for a few days, people can relax and not worry about starting a new entry right away.

@PTGigi - user voting actually sounds like a cool idea if judging happened for a longer period. As stated before, there was a lack of interest in multiple judges. For instance, nobody wanted to judge GCEA, so it was pushed onto Comatose who didn't really want to do it. XaiakuX didn't even complete his judging and two other people had to step in. There was a judge application thread, and it's in the same section as this thread is. It's stickied, so it's all there. In March, there was a "Now seeking WAR leaders" announcement posted on PXR, but I see that there was no call for actual judges. That will definitely be a must next time. xD


At this point, I admire Team Swiftgallade. 1 point and no complaints. xD