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[Neo Emolga]

Wow @Neo Emolga, that is so dodgy! I can't believe they want you to pay for everything PLUS it's commission based! That's crazy!

I hate the networking thing too. It's really unfair. I'm terrible at talking to people. I know networking is really important for science too because if you know the guy who runs the lab, that's all that really matters. Blah. It really shouldn't be so hard to find a job if you want to work. If it's this bad already, imagine how much worse it's gonna get as things become more and more automated! I know some countries have been experimenting with having a basic wage that everyone gets paid each year no matter what, which seems pretty interesting. It might have been Iceland or something? I can't remember.

It was such a joke, but I fear this might be the beginning of a new trend. In a few years from now, companies may expect their employees to incur all of the business expenses. So if a job requires you to travel for work, they'll expect you to pay the airfare, hotel costs, and dining arrangements the same way you have to pay for the gas in your car that allows you to drive to work. A lot of things seem to be hinting toward that lately and I wouldn't be surprised if it happens.

I'm not so great at talking to people either (I do better in emails and online where I have time to gather my thoughts and organize them before sending them out). I got rejected from one job interview because they felt my answers to interview questions were "too short." I don't get it, the answers were straight to the point, I didn't repeat myself, and cut out the needless fluff and filler. Meanwhile, when someone else is talking, I politely and respectfully wait my turn by holding up for a pause in the conversation before speaking up... but sometimes my chance never happens, especially when it's a group of three or more. And I often get tagged as being "unsociable" simply because I am just trying to be respectful and polite.

I guess that's the beauty of an online forum like this one. Everyone gets a chance to speak to share their feelings and thoughts, there are no interruptions or people butting into a conversation, and no one can hog the conversation either and prevent others from getting a chance to talk. I wish real life conversations could be just as respectful and considerate, because yeah, maybe then I'd participate in them more often.

[Chakramaster]

It was such a joke, but I fear this might be the beginning of a new trend. In a few years from now, companies may expect their employees to incur all of the business expenses. So if a job requires you to travel for work, they'll expect you to pay the airfare, hotel costs, and dining arrangements the same way you have to pay for the gas in your car that allows you to drive to work. A lot of things seem to be hinting toward that lately and I wouldn't be surprised if it happens.

I'm not so great at talking to people either (I do better in emails and online where I have time to gather my thoughts and organize them before sending them out). I got rejected from one job interview because they felt my answers to interview questions were "too short." I don't get it, the answers were straight to the point, I didn't repeat myself, and cut out the needless fluff and filler. Meanwhile, when someone else is talking, I politely and respectfully wait my turn by holding up for a pause in the conversation before speaking up... but sometimes my chance never happens, especially when it's a group of three or more. And I often get tagged as being "unsociable" simply because I am just trying to be respectful and polite.

I guess that's the beauty of an online forum like this one. Everyone gets a chance to speak to share their feelings and thoughts, there are no interruptions or people butting into a conversation, and no one can hog the conversation either and prevent others from getting a chance to talk. I wish real life conversations could be just as respectful and considerate, because yeah, maybe then I'd participate in them more often.

Sad to see, but it's becoming more and more true as well as it is apparent. There are still some that don't do that (the luck few businesses, which most seem to be government jobs). Where you don't have to go paying for all expenses on that stuff.

Yeah I don't understand that. If your answer was to the best of your ability without dragging it on just to make it longer then why wasn't it good enough. Dragging it out can be just as bad. I've never been in a group interview before, but I guess mine would go in a similar way for the same reasons, out of respects of others. That and normally I can be a quiet person, but when needed I can speak up.

Well other than someone who has missed parts of the earlier conversation that may randomly come up and start trying to change the subject lol, but I get what you mean. Yeah it's tough when your "business" self has to meet a certain demand to even get the job. If it were to require you changing who you really are and how you learned to treat others as a person.....would it really be worth it? I would say no. It's definitely not worth you changing who you really are.