PMD Crossroads - General Discussion Thread

[Nekomata]

Yeah... I'm not quite as fast as these two speedsters, but I'm making good progress. I foresee having it done at least before the end of the weekend.

I haven't done comics since I was like twelve, so it does take a bit to get used to the setup. :3

Not a problem! No hurries there! I know for some, this will definitely be out of the comfort zone.

Please, if anyone needs any help or wants any advice on things, go to the Comics tips/tricks thread! I'll be posting guides but am more than willing to answer individual questions and offer friendly critiques! Comic making can be tough! I'm no master, but I'm more than willing to help however I can!

[Rival Max]

Yeah... I'm not quite as fast as these two speedsters, but I'm making good progress. I foresee having it done at least before the end of the weekend.

I haven't done comics since I was like twelve, so it does take a bit to get used to the setup. :3

No rush dude. Mine take like two weeks or more

[Nekomata]

No rush dude. Mine take like two weeks or more

Really? xD Mine take ~1.5-5 hours per page. Depends on the following:

- The number of panels on the page.
- The number of characters on the page (having the same character in two panels counts as two characters)
- If it's action based or dialogue (action stuff takes longer to draw cause weirder poses require more time)
- The specific characters on the page (Naya = easy. Dialga = hard.)
- The complexity of the backgrounds
- The type of shots used (establishing shots = long time, extreme close-ups = little time)
- How complex is the lighting setup. Neutral sunlight is fast, more dramatic lighting takes more time.

The first PMDXR page took me about an hour to sketch and four hours for the rest. Over half that total time was on the establishing shot alone.

I also have a very bad habit of working on the page from start to finish in one sitting. Well, sort of. Sometimes I'll sketch out multiple pages ahead of time THEN do lines > finish in one go for each page.

[Neo Emolga]

Not a problem! No hurries there! I know for some, this will definitely be out of the comfort zone.

Please, if anyone needs any help or wants any advice on things, go to the Comics tips/tricks thread! I'll be posting guides but am more than willing to answer individual questions and offer friendly critiques! Comic making can be tough! I'm no master, but I'm more than willing to help however I can!

Thanks! :3

Now that I've gotten pretty into it, I know a better way to handle the next page I end up doing, so that will save me a lot more time at least. I tried to use the pen tool in Photoshop and... nah. I just really don't like that rendition of the pen tool and it takes buttloads of time. I like the one Paint Tool SAI uses a heck of a lot more and I just personally find it way more easier to work with. I would basically do the next page like this:

Storyboard on paper
Set up panels in Photoshop
Import to Paint Tool SAI for sketch, refined sketch, and lineart. Chararcters on one series of layer, backgrounds on the other series of layers.
Export back to Photoshop
Color, shade, and highlights
Insert dialogue bubbles

I did this a little out of order and it just didn't click with me, but now I know what I'm doing and I'll have a better idea of how I want to handle the next round.

No rush dude. Mine take like two weeks or more

Yeah, I think I've clocked in at least twelve hours on this thing. I have no idea how Neko does it in five. XD

[Nekomata]

Thanks! :3

Now that I've gotten pretty into it, I know a better way to handle the next page I end up doing, so that will save me a lot more time at least. I tried to use the pen tool in Photoshop and... nah. I just really don't like that rendition of the pen tool and it takes buttloads of time. I like the one Paint Tool SAI uses a heck of a lot more and I just personally find it way more easier to work with. I would basically do the next page like this:

Storyboard on paper
Set up panels in Photoshop
Import to Paint Tool SAI for sketch, refined sketch, and lineart. Chararcters on one series of layer, backgrounds on the other series of layers.
Export back to Photoshop
Color, shade, and highlights
Insert dialogue bubbles

I did this a little out of order and it just didn't click with me, but now I know what I'm doing and I'll have a better idea of how I want to handle the next round.



Yeah, I think I've clocked in at least twelve hours on this thing. I have no idea how Neko does it in five. XD

I do it all in photoshop. xD The pen tool in PS isn't amazing, so I hand-draw it all. I've found some wonderful inking brushes over the years. So that helps. xD My process is:

- Outline (Not for PMDXR, obviously)
- Script
- Thumbnails (Not for PMDXR just cause)
- Sketch with pencil brush
- Lines
- Flat colors
- Shading
- Backgrounds

And I do mine in 2-5 hours because... well- after 160 pages you'd HOPE I would be slightly fast. I can't imagine spending 12 hours per page at this point. That'd be 240 hours per chapter. It's a lot of work, so I try to be efficient. That said, my comic art style isn't nearly as nice as what I could do if I took my time with things. xD

[Pokemon Trainer Sarah]

I do it all in photoshop. xD The pen tool in PS isn't amazing, so I hand-draw it all. I've found some wonderful inking brushes over the years. So that helps. xD My process is:

- Outline (Not for PMDXR, obviously)
- Script
- Thumbnails (Not for PMDXR just cause)
- Sketch with pencil brush
- Lines
- Flat colors
- Shading
- Backgrounds

And I do mine in 2-5 hours because... well- after 160 pages you'd HOPE I would be slightly fast. I can't imagine spending 12 hours per page at this point. That'd be 240 hours per chapter. It's a lot of work, so I try to be efficient. That said, my comic art style isn't nearly as nice as what I could do if I took my time with things. xD

Would it be a good idea to have resources listed somewhere (Q&A thread?)? Like the font that was chosen and maybe some good brushes if people don't have a preferred brush already? :O I know I'd find that helpful if I signed up xD If it's already somewhere and I just missed it, ignore me xD

[Nekomata]

Would it be a good idea to have resources listed somewhere (Q&A thread?)? Like the font that was chosen and maybe some good brushes if people don't have a preferred brush already? :O I know I'd find that helpful if I signed up xD If it's already somewhere and I just missed it, ignore me xD

I'll put all that together this weekend. It's been... a crazy few days.

I plan on getting another guide up over the weekend and maybe post up some good resources I've found in terms of brushes, fonts, other guides, etc. (Not all the brushes I use are free, but they are DEFINITELY worth it for the quality.) I'll put links to all this on the main post of all PMDXR threads when it's ready. xD

[Pokemon Trainer Sarah]

I'll put all that together this weekend. It's been... a crazy few days.

I plan on getting another guide up over the weekend and maybe post up some good resources I've found in terms of brushes, fonts, other guides, etc. (Not all the brushes I use are free, but they are DEFINITELY worth it for the quality.) I'll put links to all this on the main post of all PMDXR threads when it's ready. xD

Nice! I'm always looking for good brushes :D

[Nekomata]

Nice! I'm always looking for good brushes :D

Good brushes are the best thing. <3 I make some myself from time to time- sometimes it's easier than looking for them.

[Pokemon Trainer Sarah]

Good brushes are the best thing. <3 I make some myself from time to time- sometimes it's easier than looking for them.

Wow that's pretty nifty! :O All I've made before are patterns xD